RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 9, 2017 at 2:15 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2017 at 2:24 pm by pabsta.)
(August 9, 2017 at 1:23 pm)Astreja Wrote:(August 9, 2017 at 11:28 am)pabsta Wrote: Another fact that atheists want to avoid is the subject of Jacinta from Fatima being found incorrupt...
"Incorrupt"?
Okay, Pabsta, ball is in your court. At your personal expense and effort, kindly arrange with the RCC for an independent autopsy of this allegedly incorrupt body. Specifically we would like the corpse tested for embalming chemicals, and to determine through cytological analysis in what respects this body materially differs from, say, a cat mummified by the Egyptians or a corpse found in a peat bog.
Let us know when the arrangements are in place, and we will send an observer (again, at your expense -- hotel, airfare, and a reasonable per diem for meals) to be at the autopsy to ensure that it's being done in accordance with professional standards.
If you fail to follow through, though, I won't be the least bit surprised.
What you are requesting has been done for St. Bernadette's incorrupt body. The body examination testimony is located on the same page I linked to.
An example of the logic presented in this discussion. A conversation after an exhibition baseball game:
Tom (baseball fan): Wow, you missed the exhibition baseball game yesterday! Did you hear about how that player from the Yankees charged the mound and took a swipe at the Red Sox pitcher?
Joe (his atheist friend): That player would never do such a thing
Tom: Well he did, I was there and I saw him
Joe: Where's your proof?
Tom: What are you talking about! I'm telling you I was there and I saw it, and there was a large crowd there too that saw it!
Joe: Well show me the video where it happened
Tom: It was an exhibition game, so it was not televised. Though there are still shots available of the game and the large crowd
Joe: That's not enough, so I don't believe that player ever took a swipe at the Red Sox pitcher
Tom: Dude, everyone at the game saw it, including some reporters who interviewed some of the fans about it afterward, and it was confirmed in newspapers the following day!
Joe: Did the newspaper articles contain a photo of the player swinging at the pitcher?
Tom: Well, no, but the articles still confirmed that it happened!
Joe: That's not enough, so I say it never happened unless you provide me more evidence. Every incident leaves behind evidence
Tom: Well in this instance, the player charged the mound, swung at the pitcher and missed, so there are no bruises or other evidence. But what does that matter when I'm telling you I saw it, and the large crowd there saw it, and it was in the newspapers the following day, with statements from fans confirming they saw it?
Joe: Eyewitness testimony as unreliable. Sorry Tom, the incident never happened
Readers of this discussion are going to be fit for a loony bin if they read any more of the illogical arguments being presented in here!