Does Modern Science Owe Its Existence to Religion?

[Statler Waldorf]

Outline is a synonym for chart. Statler Waldorf is a synonym for troll. You are either the most arrogant and willfully obtuse human being I have ever encountered or you are a troll. Either way, I am not wasting my time with your bullshit anymore. Prove your fucking point with a direct link between religion and science. Prove that science would not exist if it were not for religion. You obviously cannot, so I have no reason to return to this thread. I realize that my assessment of you is close enough to rule-breaking to warrant a report, so go ahead and report this post. This "pseudo-mod" would rather take a warning than sit here and try to hold a conversation with someone who is obviously a troll and is not here for reciprocal conversations. I'd be better of talking to my fish.

Yeah you did this last time we talked too, called me a bunch of names and then ran off. You will be back. Yes, I am sure your fish and you would have a lot in common considering it “lacks a belief” in God just like you and didn’t rely on anyone else to arrive at this position :-P

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Googled your position on this Statler. Found an excerpt from "Dance of Deception". (Top return on google no less, +1)

"No, there is no conflict between true science and the Bible, rather, they compliment each other. In general, science deals with the question of 'how' and 'when' .The Bible deals with the question of 'why' and 'who'. They both describe the works of God in different ways. In fact, without Christianity there would be no modern science. Many if not most of the early scientists were Christians i.e. Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton, Pascal ,Bacon, Pasteur, Kelvin, and Maxwell. It is also true that many scientists in the world today believe in God."

I like this one. Pretty sure that most of these guys wore wigs. Perhaps wigs are responsible for modern science? They're also white. Perhaps "whiteness" is responsible for modern science? I also like the "true science" bit. So creepy.

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I have never heard of that book. It’s not just my position on this; it’s the majority position with historians today. Can you provide any quotes from the original founders of Modern Science where they say being a Wig directly fueled their science? I provided quotes where they said their faith did, so horrible analogy from you, like always.

I love that position. As if those men would only have thought the great thoughts they did, and made the great discoveries they did, if they worshiped a deity. That sort of thinking might lead one to believe that the only reason Michael Phelps won so many medals at the Olympics was because he smoked pot,

Come on Epim, arguing that they would have done it without their faith is just an argument from ignorance and pure speculation on your part. The fact of the matter is, modern science arose in Western Europe for a reason. The Christian Reformation changed the way men viewed science, and gave them a logical foundation to believe that nature should be explored and was intelligible to men. Historians confirm this, and more importantly the scientists’ very own writings confirm this.