RE: Does Modern Science Owe Its Existence to Religion?
August 18, 2011 at 8:02 pm
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2011 at 8:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 18, 2011 at 5:58 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: - You are right; the way you behave is completely inconsistent with your atheism.
- It’s not a claim to truth; it’s a claim to inerrancy, the ultimate standard to judge truth. You have a different inerrant standard to judge it by? Didn’t think so.
- I didn’t say all logical arguments come down to beliefs, that one does though. You can’t prove it is not sound so don’t even waste your time.
- A better recap would be- you didn’t know the difference between a valid argument and a sound argument, so I showed you. You claimed there were no valid arguments for the existence of God, so I came up with one and refuted you on the spot. You didn’t know how presuppositions work in logic (apparently you are still fuzzy on this one though, so we will work on it), so I showed you. You tried to use logic to disprove logic, so I showed you why that was absurd. You have learned a lot today, just think of what you may learn tomorrow! The world is your oyster.
Quoting is fun.
1: Of course we have such a worldview, you wouldn't have anything to bitch and moan about in IDiocy threads if we didn't.
2: Inerrancy: Freedom from error or untruth. Complete failure to respond, on top of obfuscation. You seem to be implying here that all empirical knowledge is counterfeit, good for you.
3: ["I believe" scripture is inerrant] is a different argument. You're attempting a bait and switch. I concede that argument, I believe that you believe. As to your claim of inerrancy, whether or not I can prove it isn't true is irrelevant, you must prove it to be true.
I'm glad we had this conversation. I did learn a lot about logic. Your logic. I'm also glad that you refuse to allow an argument against logic. This provides me with the opportunity to ask you to communicate your valid, sound argument for the existence of your god. As a layperson logic can be very nebulous to me, it's good to have a competent tutor in this field, even if you make a few errors here and there. Your reference to presuppositions being one that I'm actually very familiar with, though I think you may have only been exposed to a single point of view in this regard.
I'm waiting, baited breath.
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