Admitting You're a Sinner

[Whateverist]

.. the real doctrine is not about 'our method/definition of morality is better because it's God's instructions from the Bible', it is about addressing and solving  the cosmic consequences of sin.

Wow, you really think the actual harm we do one another is secondary to "cosmic consequences"? Oh yeah, you mean pie in the sky afterlife rewards vs dum-te-dum-dum hell.

Another way xtianity warps morality is the honus it puts on them to be morally exceptional, as if morality should be an all consuming pursuit of the highest scores possible. That's no way for people to live. Rather than lift people up, that makes them less than they could be. Of course, the fact that getting 'saved' is said to come from grace rather than acts and the ready availability of death bed confessions pretty much guarantees that the prisons will be stocked with at least their share of malcontents. It is pretty apparent that the avoidance of cruelty and indifference in and of it self doesn't play a very big role in the lives xtians lead; how we treat each other is just for score keeping for the sake of "cosmic consequences" for your lot.

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I can't see us finding any common ground here. You may as well be telling me I have to do voodoo rituals to remove the curse of Sapphire Witch. 

Beautiful.