RE: The Quran and The Prohibiting of Pedophilia? Marriage Contracts
April 15, 2018 at 1:04 am
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2018 at 1:41 am by WinterHold.)
(April 14, 2018 at 10:47 pm)Magilla Wrote:(April 14, 2018 at 5:06 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The test is not just "to look for a creator", but it is "to believe in the real creator". The answer to the morality debate is exactly this: a choice between God's commands and Satan's commands.
That is a false dichotomy. One can choose the commands of neither. I'm pretty sure you'll find that atheists believe in neither "God" nor "Satan", so if not believing in "God" is equivalent to not choosing "God's" commands, by the same token not believing in "Satan" is equivalent to not choosing "Satan's" commands. One can choose to use one's thinking powers to decide what is good behaviour and what is not. Theologies say that humans can't do that correctly, but I see no reason to agree.
Islam considered a set of actions to be "chosen and created by God", while other are "not chosen but created by God also". The first are categorized as "good"; the latter are categorized as "evil". Both are created by God; though.
In terms of humans; both ways must be clear: both actions are very obvious, doing the "good" is known, while doing the "bad" is also known: to atheists and theists alike.
It's agreeable worldwide that killing for no reason is wrong -for example-. Also robbing somebody's wealth is also defined as "bad". Rape is wrong in every doctrine...do you see where I'm going with this?
God's distinct line is very obvious between the good and the bad. We say that "consciousness" is the source of this; but doesn't that mean what the member "robvalue" said in a previous comment: that why isn't holy books are imprinted in our minds if it was a test?
God's way is imprinted in us, and it is moral consciousness that is unified between all people.
(April 14, 2018 at 11:02 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: There is no test.
The test is a figment of the religious mind.
There is just life, trial and error. Living life, enjoying life, ending life with death.
When the "odds" pile up, "thinking about a bigger picture" is born. Let me give you an example:
-We are born
-Ironically, we learn that we can think. We have a whole population of animals and microscopic creatures that are...not awake or not conscious
-Then we have a sun and a moon. Without them we wouldn't exist
-Then we have a proper temperature around all of the planet to ensure the existence of water for our survival. Spawning also.
-Then we have planetary orbits that ensure us dodging comets like the one that hit the dinosaurs
The odds pile up and keep piling up. The more we know about the tiny reasons that could've lead to our extinction or worse:not coming to be; the more a design unfolds.
And a design=a creator. A designer.
