RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 7, 2018 at 9:01 am
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2018 at 9:09 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 6, 2018 at 3:26 pm)Quick Wrote:(May 6, 2018 at 3:24 pm)Mathilda Wrote: That's always on my mind as well. But I also don't think that it should excuse him from the animosity he gets. I've seen people on other forums who started off as complete jerks and then turn their life around and become genuinely nice people. That won't happen if people excuse the behaviour and let it pass unchallenged. And if it is the way he is wired, then he needs to learn to adapt.
I do not think punishment is a good way to motivate people.
Would you say that it depends largely on the punishment?
What about the threat of punishment? Would you say that that motivates people?
(May 6, 2018 at 5:55 pm)Mathilda Wrote:(May 6, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Hammy Wrote: My suspicion is that we probably agree on this matter.... but I am not sure what the point you are making here is, Mathilda. Can you perhaps elaborate? If that's not too much trouble. I don't mean to be obtuse. I promise it's unintentionally obtuse.
OK well take me. I used to be a troll.
Back in 1994 when I first got to university and gained access to news groups. First thing I did was troll the local news group. I was young, low self esteem, used to being an outcast and all I knew was to be ignored all the time I wasn't provoking a reaction. Whatever, it doesn't matter. I became unpopular but it was a learning experience. Three years later at the end of my degree, the news group started meeting up in person (it was local to the university). But also by that time I had grown as a person. They awarded me 'Best poster'. That wouldn't have happened if people had excused my actions and there had been no consequences to them. Doing that would have denied me a chance to become a better person.
So while it's good to understand where others are coming from. This shouldn't stop anyone from holding them to account. Doing so does nobody any favours. If Neo's posting behaviour on here makes him extremely unpopular then that's what he has to deal with.
Yes. How is that not punishment though?
Or do you mean it's not retributivist punishment it's consequentialist punishment? If so I agree. In other words... it's not about punishing people because they deserve it.
Thank you for your post I enjoyed it a lot.
