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Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
(June 13, 2018 at 7:31 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(June 13, 2018 at 6:50 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: That isn't any kind of evidence that Israel is, "the tip of the spear now for any American plan to harvest the Middle East off its resources."  If you think it is, then you're a loony as I implied in my prior post.

How do you read the "installing of a Jewish state right in the middle of states dominated by Islam"?
If the west wanted an entry point into the Islamic backyard, all it has to do is "enter through Israel".

The evidence for the early British support for Israel:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_De...sh_support

Quote:Early British political support for an increased Jewish presence in the region of Palestine was based upon geopolitical calculations.[1][i] This support began in the early 1840s[3] and was led by Lord Palmerston, following the occupation of Syria and Palestine by separatist Ottoman governor Muhammad Ali of Egypt.[4][5]


Quote:French influence had grown in Palestine and the wider Middle East as protector of the Catholic communities began to grow, just as Russian influence had grown as protector of the Eastern Orthodox in the same regions. This left Britain without a sphere of influence,[4] and thus a need to find or create their own regional "protégés".[6]

Maybe you just don't want to see it?
Britain "engineered this conflict". Do you want to convince me to believe the word of British politicians?

What I quoted above, is "the tip of the spear" sentence, in other words.
Do you prefer "The regional sphere of influence"?

First of all, the U.S. is not Britain.  There is no "tip of the spear" and no American plans to invade the Middle East in order to harvest their resources.  And when we examine your own sources, even they refute you.

Quote:Early British political support for an increased Jewish presence in the region of Palestine was based upon geopolitical calculations. ... Such efforts were premature, and did not succeed; only 24,000 Jews were living in Palestine on the eve of the emergence of Zionism within the world's Jewish communities in the last two decades of the 19th century.

. . . . . .

Scope of the national home "in Palestine"


The statement that such a homeland would be found "in Palestine" rather than "of Palestine" was also deliberate.[xxiv] The proposed draft of the declaration contained in Rothschild's 12 July letter to Balfour referred to the principle "that Palestine should be reconstituted as the National Home of the Jewish people." In the final text, following Lord Milner's amendment, the word "reconstituted" was removed and the word "that" was replaced with "in".

This text thereby avoided committing the entirety of Palestine as the National Home of the Jewish people, resulting in controversy in future years over the intended scope. This was clarified by the 1922 Churchill White Paper, which wrote that "the terms of the declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded 'in Palestine.'"

Wikipedia || Balfour declaration [emphasis mine]

An examination of actual history shows that the Arabs and Palestinians were their own worst enemy, and got hoist on their own petard.  So if you have any evidence that America intends to invade the Middle East, then bring it.  Otherwise, shut up with your crazy, bigoted reinvention of history and fact.

Quote:Social and political developments in Europe convinced Jews they needed their own country, and their ancestral homeland seemed like the right place to establish it. European Jews — 90 percent of all Jews at the time — arrived at Zionism partly because of rising anti-Semitic persecution and partly because the Enlightenment introduced Jews to secular nationalism. Between 1896 and 1948, hundreds of thousands of Jews resettled from Europe to what was then British-controlled Palestine, including large numbers forced out of Europe during the Holocaust.

Many Arabs saw the influx of Jews as a European colonial movement, and the two peoples fought bitterly. The British couldn't control the violence, and in 1947 the United Nations voted to split the land into two countries. Almost all of the roughly 650,000 Jews went to the blue territory in the map to the right, and a majority of the Arab population (roughly twice the size of the Jewish community) went to the orange.

The Jewish residents accepted the deal. The Palestinians, who saw the plan as an extension of a long-running Jewish attempt push them out of the land, fought it. The Arab states of Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria all later declared war on Israel, as well (albeit not to defend the Palestinians).

Israeli forces defeated the Palestinian militias and Arab armies in a vicious conflict that turned 700,000 Palestinian civilians into refugees. The UN partition promised 56 percent of British Palestine for the Jewish state; by the end of the war, Israel possessed 77 percent — everything except the West Bank and the eastern quarter of Jerusalem (controlled by Jordan), as well as the Gaza Strip (controlled by Egypt). It left Israelis with a state, but not Palestinians.

How did Israel become a country in the first place? [emphasis mine]
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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry - by Angrboda - June 13, 2018 at 8:00 pm

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