(June 19, 2018 at 11:36 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:(June 19, 2018 at 1:34 am)Godscreated Wrote: This definition shows that I would have to be the one who could punish you by placing you in hell
GC
You do realize, I hope, that it is entirely possible to threaten one person with the acts of another, much like Rob's sniper example. You pass on the threat of hell in your gawd's name all the fucking time GC. At least be man enough to own it.
I can't own something I do not have. With God I can't even earn what I do not have, it's given by grace, thankfully.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.