A Book?

[Edwardo Piet]

1. Why should science and evidence be dumped for either of those things when both are so rational? Why should anything be believed without evidence nevermind things such as God and the FSM?

This thing can't be seen any other way. If you don't want to ee it, fair enough. If you do, you know what to do.

If I don't want to? It's not a case of want - except that I want the truth. And as far as I know there is no more evidence that the Bible is evidence of God than that the FSM Gospel is evidence of the FSM. There is zero evidence in both cases. So why would I believe otherwise?

2. Why make an irrational leap (dumping evidence) to GOD rather than the FSM?

Because there's rational support from the bible to make the leap.

WHAT rational support? And if there really IS rational support then that would equate to evidence and hence cancel out the "Faith". If there is rational support from the bible - a reason to believe it is actually true - then why would you need faith? You can't anyway - you've got evidence if there's rational support to believe it's actually true so you can't have "Faith" because Faith is WITHOUT evidence.

As I asked in my question above (and I don't see how you answered it??): Why give God special treatment over the FSM?

I've answered that question many many times here. You see no difference between what is empty & meaningless and what holds reason.[/quote]

I do not see one answer. You simply say the Bible carries rational reasons to believe in God but I do not know of any. I know of no more evidence for the TRUTH of the Bible being evidence for "God" than the FSM Gospel being evidence for the FSM...

HOW did you answer my question? How is the Bible any different? "Because it is"? -How does that answer my question??

What evidence is there that the Bible is any more evidence for "God" than the FSM Gospel is for the FSM?

Because I reasoned that the leap of faith would be worthwhile based on observations in the bible that applied to my own life.

Any chance you'll share these observations?

You want me to share the entire bible?!

How about show ANY bits of it or ANY small amount of ANYTHING however tiny that is even REMOTELY evidence to believe that God actually exists?

...any more or less than than the FSM Gospel is evidence for the FSM?

fr0d0 do I have to put it any more bluntly than: There's no evidence to BELIEVE in "God" whether we CAN have evidence for him...or not.

EvF

I beg to differ. How do you know?

As far as I know there is no evidence to believe that God exists whether we CAN have evidence for him or not....so I don't believe.

You beg to differ? So you think there CAN be evidence to believe in God? I thought you said there couldn't?

EvF