(September 25, 2018 at 1:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: 1-Ask about the design of the universe: this question is very embarrassing to atheists, because the universe is full of signs. From the human body to mathematics, to the value of PI, the universe seems like a pattern designed by the same entity.
2-Open up the topic of time: human life is timed. Literally there is a cosmic clock, and the sun gives the time for earth. Why do the odds stack up in this life?
3-Why do we have consciousness?
"JANE STOP THIS CRAZY THING!"
Atlass, -please, this is not a new or original argument nor is it solely made by Muslims.
No, there is no design in all this. We are not the products of a cosmic factory owner. We are the product of mere nature and processes.
But if you really want to go there, I will say the same thing I do when Christians use the design argument.
Cockroaches and bacteria are also living things. They also can carry very deadly diseases that can kill humans. They also outnumber humans and have been around longer than humans. Still want to claim "design"?
Humans share the same eating breathing tube and we can choke on our food and die. Whales and dolphins do not have that problem. And as far as whales, some species of whales still have residual bones left over from when they had legs. Whales started out in water, went to land for a while, then back to water.
A Giraffe has a nerve that starts at one ear, goes all the way down their neck, then all the way back up to the other ear. Seems a waste knowing the shortest distance between two points is a straight line.
And are birth defects like Downs Syndrome by "design" too?
Life was not a product of a sky wizard, anymore than lightening is a product of Thor.
Atlass, what you are needlessly mentally doing to yourself trying to defend old mythology is you are confusing "pretty" in life as all there is to life.
I also see amazing things in life too. But there are also nasty things in life too. The only difference between the theist and the atheist is that we don't assign the good or bad in life to old mythology and fictional beings.
Creation mythology is far older than Islam, Christianity and Jewish traditions.
