(August 19, 2019 at 12:21 pm)Lek Wrote:(August 18, 2019 at 5:41 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: My first questions would be, "How did you determine the attributes of the god character in the book ?"
In a Spiderman comic his strength is amazing and he's able to lift about 20 tons (give or take)
I can't measure his strength because he's a fictional character.
In much the same way, the character of god appears to be just as fictional with writers making up his attributes.
If the god character is real, then you should be able to determine the attributes, unless it's like determining the number of single celled creatures on a distant planet that we haven't discovered yet. (Unknowable at this time)
Albert Einstein, who studied science and the physical universe as much as anyone ever, believed in God. It wasn't a theist type god, but rather a pantheistic kind of god. He would never call himself an atheist, but uncomfortably settled with agnostic. His belief in some kind of god came from his observation of the universe, such as the order of it. He never proved the existence of a god, but nonetheless believed in one. He, like myself and the apostle Paul (Romans 1) agree that the existence of God can be realized by studying the universe. It's not proof by the scientific method, but rather a revelation from that god which is all.
What you're doing here is looking at the universe and imagining a god. This is your imagination at work, in much the same way a child looks at a full grown tree and imagines invisible elves planting seeds and taking care of those seeds to help them grow into a strong tree.
The child didn't determine that elves could do such things. It imagined that elves had these attributes.
You didn't determine that a god had those attributes.
You imagined that it did.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result