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[Serious] Question for the Trump supporters
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RE: Question for the Trump supporters
(May 2, 2020 at 5:43 am)Violet Wrote: I don’t support him. Never have.

But in the past the environment here wouldn’t even accept arguments for him... serious or otherwise. It was a discussion turn-off button that instantly turned a debate-low time into a no debate zone.

People were, and likely still are too vitriolic about the issue.

For me, I’ve never had a good president. Bush and Clinton were both so much worse than Trump it isn’t even funny, and Obama looked and sounded one hell of a lot better than he actually was. Trump for me is more of the same president who’s been in office all the years of my life, just with a really bad paint job.

Interestingly, both the biggest help and biggest deterrence to my own life came from Obama. Biggest help was when he snuck transgender stuff through via memos that literally nobody was actually asking for in any obvious capacity, and they were a huge blessing... even if the way I got them was shady as fuck. Presidential memos are like that, way too much power in the presidents hands, too much effect on policy... which isn’t to say I like even a single person in Congress. Perhaps Lisa Murkowski? But what she does for Alaskan interests is the reason for that.

The biggest deference for me has been Obamacare. Prices for my surgery jumped, leapt, and then screamed upwards. The system bled me for so much of my money which I could have saved, and had been saving until I suddenly had to pay an additional 4X my phone bills every single month. It’s got its uses, sure, but it’s the perfect storm middle solution of worst of both worlds: the worst of capitalist healthcare, and the worst of socialist healthcare in one cheery package.

Never mind literally creating isis AND starting the Arab spring. The economic migration troubles of Europe can be linked to Obama (and his choicest of state secretaries). Trump sounds like a jackass, and he acts like a great big blundering elephant....

But he hasn’t actually done much of anything, by the previous three presidents standards. No huge shakeup federal laws, no huge new conflicts have happened, no obvious conspiracies have come out of his office yet (certainly not the Russia thing).

If i could have every one of my presidents accomplish so little as trump has: I would absolutely love it. I wish he hadn’t even ‘accomplished’ as much as he has.

Oh dear. 
Where do we start on how wrong you are.

Shame.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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Question for the Trump supporters - by The Valkyrie - April 23, 2020 at 4:07 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by downbeatplumb - April 23, 2020 at 4:09 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Fake Messiah - April 23, 2020 at 11:34 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Brian37 - April 23, 2020 at 11:54 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by brewer - April 23, 2020 at 12:36 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Mister Agenda - April 23, 2020 at 12:46 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by TaraJo - April 23, 2020 at 2:56 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Ranjr - April 23, 2020 at 3:13 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by ignoramus - April 23, 2020 at 5:19 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Fireball - April 23, 2020 at 6:07 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by TaraJo - April 23, 2020 at 7:26 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Ranjr - April 23, 2020 at 7:04 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Violet - May 2, 2020 at 5:59 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by arewethereyet - April 23, 2020 at 6:14 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by no one - April 23, 2020 at 6:36 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Anarchy811 - April 30, 2020 at 10:17 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Mr Greene - April 30, 2020 at 10:25 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Anomalocaris - April 30, 2020 at 10:47 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Duty - April 30, 2020 at 11:02 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Anomalocaris - April 30, 2020 at 2:27 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Agnostico - April 30, 2020 at 4:24 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Fireball - April 30, 2020 at 4:33 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Violet - May 2, 2020 at 5:43 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by downbeatplumb - May 2, 2020 at 5:51 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Mr Greene - May 2, 2020 at 9:57 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Foxaèr - May 2, 2020 at 10:10 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by TaraJo - May 16, 2020 at 7:55 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2020 at 11:35 am
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Zepp - June 13, 2020 at 6:25 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by onlinebiker - June 13, 2020 at 7:05 pm
RE: Question for the Trump supporters - by Zepp - June 13, 2020 at 10:11 pm

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