RE: 'Seeking' God
October 30, 2011 at 6:19 pm
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2011 at 6:47 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I'd settle with understanding claims to the material with science, since that can be handled quite nicely. Including any claims where the "supernatural" is said to have interfered or otherwise come into contact with the "regular nature?". Too much to ask?
(such as would be the case with miracles, including the miracle of heaven, souls etc)
I'd settle with understanding claims to the supernatural referenced by what we can demonstrate. This is what leads us to classify things as myth, mythical, or mythological. Without any evidence in support of your position (not arguing against others positions) why should yours be afforded any merit, respect, or reverence? Further, why should yours be offered something over the next guys? You ask why science comes to any conclusion that it does (tentative as it is) and they pony up with their evidence. You can criticize it all you like, if it doesn't stand up to scrutiny then fuck it. Are you going to sit here and make the argument that faith in a christian god (and specifically faith in a certain interpretation of the many christian gods)and the scientific method have anything in common, anything at all beyond the superficial? I hope not.
How about you tell me about seeking god, and the reasons you feel your description of this search (how it should be done, where one should look, what criteria one should apply in the search) is accurate? Did you employ these methods to reach your own conclusion? Can the same methods be used to reach any other conclusion, perhaps a competing one? Can this line of reasoning be used for anything else? Can we get a false positive in using it? What would invalidate this line of reasoning?
(such as would be the case with miracles, including the miracle of heaven, souls etc)
I'd settle with understanding claims to the supernatural referenced by what we can demonstrate. This is what leads us to classify things as myth, mythical, or mythological. Without any evidence in support of your position (not arguing against others positions) why should yours be afforded any merit, respect, or reverence? Further, why should yours be offered something over the next guys? You ask why science comes to any conclusion that it does (tentative as it is) and they pony up with their evidence. You can criticize it all you like, if it doesn't stand up to scrutiny then fuck it. Are you going to sit here and make the argument that faith in a christian god (and specifically faith in a certain interpretation of the many christian gods)and the scientific method have anything in common, anything at all beyond the superficial? I hope not.
How about you tell me about seeking god, and the reasons you feel your description of this search (how it should be done, where one should look, what criteria one should apply in the search) is accurate? Did you employ these methods to reach your own conclusion? Can the same methods be used to reach any other conclusion, perhaps a competing one? Can this line of reasoning be used for anything else? Can we get a false positive in using it? What would invalidate this line of reasoning?
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