RE: 'Seeking' God
October 31, 2011 at 1:54 am
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2011 at 2:02 am by Cyberman.)
(October 31, 2011 at 1:37 am)ElDinero Wrote:(October 31, 2011 at 1:26 am)lucent Wrote: I don't write them off, I just know they are/were deceived. There is a difference between believing something because you're off kilter, and believing something because you were deliberately deceived. I have no doubt they all had very convincing spiritual experiences and interactions with actual spirits. The problem is, those spirits are demons.
Ahahhahahahaha. Get fucked. Talk about arrogance.
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(October 31, 2011 at 1:46 am)lucent Wrote:(October 31, 2011 at 1:32 am)Stimbo Wrote: Let's just accept for a moment that the Big Bang does violate the laws of Thermodynamics. Let's set aside for the moment that, according to the Big Bang model, all laws of physics break down at the moment of singularity (if there ever was one). Ok, clean slate. The Universe exists. You believe that it was brought into being by a creator god. You have the floor: please explain how this god managed to do this without violating the laws of Thermodynamics that you're complaining about.
I don't believe God violates the 2nd law because there was no chance for entropy to build up. It started out at the maximal state of order and complexity before any disorder came into the picture..i'll have to think about the 1st law..there is also the question about pre fall conditions vs post fall conditions..ill get back to you :p
So now you've established a condition which makes supernatural creation possible, or at the very least plausible, in your model. Fine. Now please explain why this condition could not also apply to the Big Bang model. In other words, this god took advantage of the physical condition you stated to work his magic. Why then could the Big Bang scenario not do likewise?
For anyone who is genuinely interested in the Big Bang model, the story of how it came to be and the great scientists throughout history who paved the way for it, I can recommend no greater work than Big Bang: The Most Important Scientific Discovery of All Time and Why You Need to Know About It by Simon Singh. It manages to walk the reader through the fascinating evolution of all the various theories of cosmology and physics, without being either turgid or condescending.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
