'Seeking' God

[Mister Agenda]

First of all, I don't understand much of what you said, Salty... It made little sense...

But, I would like to add that if I thought God and Satan existed, then I would gladly worship Satan over God. God is an prick.
Satan pretty much just called God out on his arseholey ways.

I know that you're saying this because you really don't believe he's real. What happened between you and God? I remember you mentioning that Christianity is responsible for all kinds of terrible things...but did something happen to you personally that you attribute to straight to God?

I guess I just find it difficult to hate something I don't believe is real. I don't believe Apollo is real but I don't hate him or hearing of him. He's just made up so I merely shrug at his name. Now...I would hate him if someone I loved refused to get medical treatment because they thought that Apollo would heal them...then I'd have a reason to be disgusted...what's your reason for disgust with God (since you don't believe in him)?

It's not strange to feel some antipathy for fictional characters like Voldemort and Darth Vader. It's impossible to get really miffed at them per se, because they're imaginary, but, speaking of imagination, can you imagine 80% of the USA believing Voldemort is real, and a good guy? Can you imagine how irritating that would be to an a-Voldemortist?

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From what is shown in the Bible, what do you mean? The old testament? Do you think that justice can be dealt without the guilty being punished?

I think the death penalty would suffice.

Are you capable of going to the people that were punished in the Bible and determining if they were innocent? Are you capable of stopping any action that doesn't include yourself, that depends on the judgment of another? It's very unlikely that you personally can stop people from being impacted by the decisions of others or the consequences that people lay on themselves through their actions. Moreover, it's impossible for you to go into the past and right any war or genocide that happened, so since you have no control over those things, is your only response to hate God?

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Who supposedly CAN do all that? Nope, the biblical God is clearly the result of a game of 'my God is better than yours' that got out of hand so much that the result is self-contradictory and cannot exist.

It is very hard to convey the understanding that overcomes people when they believe that God is real and the Bible is true.

I dunno. It sounds a lot like the understanding Scientologists get when they ascend to the third circle.

Anyone can have this understanding, all they have to do is be willing to believe and it will become clear to them too.

As many have noted, any religion can make this claim. What would make Christianity stand out is if you didn't have to believe it first for it to make sense.

Is there any way that you would be interested? Do you think anything short of a miraculous event could sway you?

What's Paul got that I haven't got?

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Clear this up for me please Aleialoura. African apes have done things in the name of their imaginary friend? Are you relating evolution to Christians? This reminds me of a racial slur, so I need some clarification, please help me. thanks.

I can field this one: taxonomically we're all African Apes, in much the same sense that we're all mammals. It seems to me a way of saying we should remember our origins when we think we've got a handle on a divine reality.

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Ahh...very clear, thank you. I see. I didn't accept that Frankie secretly believes in God, but I wondered if something happened that he would think would be all God's fault...IF he were real.

Thanks for that bit, you wouldn't believe how many Christians tell us we secretly believe in God.