(March 17, 2021 at 6:32 am)Superjock Wrote: [...] every time I listen I feel like I might be getting closer to figuring out how to dismantle his argument. I don't feel I'm at that point yet, but I only joined Discord a few days ago. [...]
This is how they keep you listening. They tantalize with the possibility that if you just say the right thing, or pose the right argument, that you have a chance of winning against them.
But on their own turf that will never happen. They can change the subject, they can pretend you said something you didn't really say, they can just walk off and ignore the fact that you've said something important. The Internet makes it possible to argue in bad faith as never before in history.
Every counter argument that's been suggested on this thread is something they've heard before, and have a ready reply to. It may or may not be a good reply, but they've done it before. They will take pleasure in repeating against you what they think is a knockdown argument.
In my opinion it makes more sense to take some specific argument they've made and research it away from their site. They're not doing anything original, so there will be arguments available if you look around.
You have to keep an open mind and above all else, not become like them. That is, don't play team sports where the only goal is to make the other side look foolish. The goal ought to be clarity, not victory.
