RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 26, 2021 at 7:00 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2021 at 7:02 pm by Angrboda.)
(July 26, 2021 at 6:36 pm)Helios Wrote:(July 26, 2021 at 5:52 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The only thing that's clear is that you don't know how to answer a simple question.If you can't have a conversation without freaking out at me. Then really don't see any reason to continue this. Declare that a victory if you want.
There is a labor relationship involved, that of my producing posts and alternately of him performing administrative tasks. Those are both labor relationships.
If you think there is no power dynamic attached to having a penis, then you are fucking ignorant and naive.
So not all imbalances are exploitative. At least we're getting somewhere. Therefore an imbalance is a necessary condition for exploitation, but not a sufficient condition for exploitation. What additional elements are required for exploitation. Further on you emphasize that a specific kind of power dynamic is involved. If your definition is to avoid circularity, there must be some characteristic of the specific power dynamic between labor and capital besides it simply being a relationship involving labor and capital. (Because if that is the only distinction, what you're saying boils down to, "Wage labor is exploitative because it is wage labor." Wage labor may be exploitative for many reasons but not simply for being wage labor. That would be vapid and meaningless.)
See above. What is the specific aspect of the wage-labor relationship that makes it exploitative?
What kind of power dynamic is required? There are a billion power dynamics. For this conversation to be meaningful, the wage-labor power dynamic must fall into a category which other relationships involving power dynamics must also fall into, otherwise your answer is wage-labor is exploitative because it just is. That's ipse dixit and won't fly.
Why don't you mind your own p's and q's instead of telling me what to do, fuckface? If I want to get upset, which I haven't done, I'll go there after my druthers.
With all due respect, go fuck yourself.
Neither of those makes wage-labor exploitative in and of themselves (again, presuming your meaning is not vapid). So what about those facts makes it exploitative?
I haven't freaked out at you, but I don't intend to put up with bullshit either. Apparently, you can't engage in a conversation without playing such games.
You can choose to leave the discussion if you wish, but make no mistake that your choice is because you aren't being allowed to engage in bullshit tactics.
All that shows is that you're a hypocrite who doesn't have a problem manipulating others, but cries like a bitch about employers manipulating workers.
That just makes you an ass who talks out of both sides of his mouth.