RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 19, 2022 at 3:04 am
(April 19, 2022 at 1:32 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: You make a good point. I said "internet atheists" was too strawmanny, and then you produced Dawkins, who (for some reason) we both agree is less strawmanny than "internet atheists." But I personally don't give two fucks about what Dawkins thinks unless he happens to be right, which happens somewhat consistently.
Well, it doesn't really matter who said it. Dawkins, or his fanboys, or somebody else. I've heard it said, and I'm surprised you haven't. A lot of over-the-top anti-religious things get said on forums like this, and they usually go by unchallenged because it's a safe space to vent one's hatred.
Quote:I don't agree with Dawkins on: "raising a child with religion constitutes abuse."
Yes, I was assuming you'd be more reasonable than Fake or Dawkins.
But the point isn't so much whether a religious upbringing is or isn't child abuse in OUR eyes. The point I was making is that, for those people who DO agree with Fake and Dawkins, and call it abuse, to be consistent they would have to demand that the government intervene in the family and punish the parents. Because abuse is illegal, and requires punishment.
So that is a case which answers the question in the OP: we know that some atheists would, if they could, punish religious people.
(I referred to them as "Internet atheists" because I never talk about stuff like this with people face to face. Only on the Internet.)
I have no idea what percentage of atheists agree with this. Not a large percentage, I assume. (Unlike some people, I won't assume that the most extreme cases of a certain kind of belief are representative of everyone with that belief.) Perhaps Fake or Valkyrie or one of the other posters who associate a religious upbringing with the absolute worst examples in the world would like to clarify. It may be that they would like to mete out punishment, but don't want to say so on a thread like this. (Since Ahriman brought it up, and he's unpopular, people are likely unwilling to give him what he seems to want.)
Ahriman has posed a good question. The vehemence of many of the anti-religion statements made here certainly give the impression that the posters would be willing to take action.