THE Gun Thread

[onlinebiker]

If your car is out of gas - putting new tires on it is not a solution.

Guns are not the problem. People are the problem. Control the problem people.

1. Make it a felony for anyone adjudicated by a court of their gun rights, to have a gun. The adjudication can be because of criminal felony, or as needed for mental health issues.

This has been done.

2. Require anyone adjudicated by the court as a "gun free zone" - to be required by law to obtain state identification that has a "No Guns" logo on it. Failure to comply is a felony.

Would criminals abide by this law? What if they just kept their old ID, or carried no ID a all?

3. Require a check of state ID at all gun sales - from FFL's or private citizens.

Agreed. I'd go further and require all private sales to go through FFLs.

4. Make it a felony to fail to check ID at point of sale.

Agree.

5. Make it a felony to sell to a person who is not allowed guns.

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't this a felony already?

6. Put teeth in it -- put people who try to circumvent the law in very deep, dark holes for long periods of time.

We can sentence murderers to death, but this hasn't stopped murder.

Punish those that need punishing.

Punishing the law abiding citizen for the actions of assholes is just plain fucked up.

I think if you own a machine that is designed to kill, you owe it to society to jump through extra hoops. My truck is not designed to kill people, yet I still must register it, and perform periodic tests to demonstrate my mental and physical capability to operate it safely.

Would criminals respect laws?

Of course not. They don' t now.

You think they' re going to line up and register their guns - get licensed and insured like the proposals we hear - that only the law abiding will.follow?

At least with my way they won' t try buying guns from law abiding citizens.

Forcing all sales through FFLs is just more goddamned worthless paperwork and cost for the law abiding. Most shops charge between $25 and $50. 

Once again you want to punish the wrong people..