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The shape of Earth
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RE: The shape of Earth
(July 19, 2022 at 11:37 am)h311inac311 Wrote: Can footage be faked?

Why wouldn't the issue of trust matter?

Have these claims been independently verified?

Also, Nudger, there are plenty of individuals who have actually captured footage with a Nikon P900 who would disagree with you. People who have taken photos of city skylines across more than 60 miles of water for instance.

Advances in science are not made by an appeal to authority. Also, there are plenty of people who have placed cameras on weather baloons who have come to the opposite conclusion, that there is no visible curvature to Earth and that the horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer. Unless of course you use a fish-eye lense.

Yes, some of the footage could be faked, but the issue of motivation arises. Why would they?

Yes, most of these claims can be independently verified. It doesn't even take that much work.

I don't need to trust *my* government. Governments that actively oppose each other come to the same conclusions. When opponents agree, they are likely to be right.

Yes, those who don't know basic optics can get strange results. Have you seen the picture of the tanker hovering above the sea?
https://futurism.com/the-byte/bizarre-pi...-above-sea

If you neglect temperature inversions (which also produce mirages), you can get legitimate pictures that 'raise' the image above where it 'really is'.

Fish eye lenses can be accounted for fairly easily. And no, the horizon does not always 'rise to eye level'. In fact, this was one of the methods used by Islamic scholar to determine the size of the Earth (from mountain tops).

Too bad the people doing these measurements are so ignorant of basic optics.
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The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 19, 2022 at 10:59 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 19, 2022 at 11:06 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Orbit - July 19, 2022 at 11:06 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 19, 2022 at 11:07 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by arewethereyet - July 19, 2022 at 11:55 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Brian37 - July 28, 2022 at 10:20 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2022 at 11:09 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 19, 2022 at 11:13 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 19, 2022 at 11:20 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - July 26, 2022 at 8:44 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2022 at 11:17 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Angrboda - July 19, 2022 at 11:30 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 19, 2022 at 11:30 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 19, 2022 at 11:33 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Fake Messiah - July 20, 2022 at 11:05 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Deesse23 - July 20, 2022 at 11:43 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 22, 2022 at 10:28 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by LadyForCamus - August 18, 2022 at 10:03 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by LinuxGal - October 29, 2022 at 9:08 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - October 29, 2022 at 10:44 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2022 at 11:32 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Angrboda - July 19, 2022 at 11:33 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 19, 2022 at 11:37 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 19, 2022 at 11:46 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Fake Messiah - July 19, 2022 at 11:52 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Fake Messiah - July 19, 2022 at 12:17 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by LostLocke - July 19, 2022 at 12:46 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Thumpalumpacus - July 22, 2022 at 2:13 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 26, 2022 at 7:51 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Fake Messiah - July 26, 2022 at 4:50 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - July 26, 2022 at 5:05 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by GUBU - July 27, 2022 at 1:57 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Thumpalumpacus - July 28, 2022 at 8:22 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by HappySkeptic - July 28, 2022 at 9:55 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - July 28, 2022 at 10:00 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by HappySkeptic - July 28, 2022 at 10:21 am
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RE: The shape of Earth - by Anomalocaris - July 28, 2022 at 6:22 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2022 at 11:47 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - July 19, 2022 at 11:52 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2022 at 11:55 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 22, 2022 at 3:13 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - July 22, 2022 at 4:34 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by GUBU - July 22, 2022 at 5:31 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Angrboda - July 22, 2022 at 10:34 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - July 26, 2022 at 9:27 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Mister Agenda - July 19, 2022 at 11:55 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Fireball - July 19, 2022 at 12:19 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Jehanne - July 19, 2022 at 1:36 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Angrboda - July 19, 2022 at 1:40 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2022 at 12:49 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2022 at 11:29 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - July 20, 2022 at 1:03 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2022 at 6:40 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 22, 2022 at 10:25 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - July 26, 2022 at 9:31 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2022 at 10:28 am
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RE: The shape of Earth - by arewethereyet - July 22, 2022 at 10:34 am
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RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - August 18, 2022 at 9:26 am
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RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - August 18, 2022 at 8:21 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - July 26, 2022 at 8:00 am
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RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2022 at 12:30 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - July 26, 2022 at 11:55 am
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RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - July 26, 2022 at 2:12 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 26, 2022 at 3:54 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by HappySkeptic - July 26, 2022 at 5:37 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Anomalocaris - July 26, 2022 at 8:17 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by GUBU - July 29, 2022 at 5:32 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Anomalocaris - July 29, 2022 at 11:58 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2022 at 9:22 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - August 18, 2022 at 9:26 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - August 18, 2022 at 9:35 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2022 at 9:32 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - August 18, 2022 at 9:33 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2022 at 9:35 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2022 at 9:36 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - August 18, 2022 at 9:37 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - August 18, 2022 at 10:05 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - August 18, 2022 at 10:13 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by downbeatplumb - August 18, 2022 at 1:40 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Mister Agenda - August 18, 2022 at 9:40 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - August 18, 2022 at 9:43 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2022 at 9:43 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by zebo-the-fat - August 18, 2022 at 9:55 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2022 at 10:08 am
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RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2022 at 5:42 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - August 18, 2022 at 8:31 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by Brian37 - August 19, 2022 at 6:15 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Jehanne - August 19, 2022 at 6:51 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - August 25, 2022 at 6:13 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2022 at 7:06 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by h311inac311 - September 17, 2022 at 4:03 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 17, 2022 at 4:29 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by polymath257 - September 17, 2022 at 7:55 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by Anomalocaris - September 17, 2022 at 4:52 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Jehanne - September 17, 2022 at 6:28 pm
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RE: The shape of Earth - by Jehanne - December 3, 2022 at 11:53 pm
RE: The shape of Earth - by Fake Messiah - December 4, 2022 at 12:42 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Ranjr - December 4, 2022 at 1:01 am
RE: The shape of Earth - by Anomalocaris - December 4, 2022 at 1:06 am

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