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Over 2300 dead in Turkey
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RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey
(February 6, 2023 at 4:16 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: I understand Turkey has one of the strictest earthquake resistant building standards in the world in combination with one of the most corrupt and ineffectual earthquake resistant building standard enforcements in the world.

Basically almost no new building in built in Turkey since the establishment of these standards can meet even a fraction of these standards.

I think it’s better if not everyone knows about the details. But
 
1) We even had taxes that were levied since the year 1999 (date of the former great earthquake we had faced until know with about 20,000 deaths) so that all buildings would be made earthquake resistant. But in this earthquake we saw that newly built public buildings had entirely collapsed. So people are asking questions and I can tell you there are some unanswered questions.
 
2) There is a lack of coordination at every level of the state Apparatus. Before the alleged military coup of 2015 and several purges that were carried out after that event, our military had emergency responses plan that allowed them to be on (all) disaster sites within hours at most. Because I have pledged to not give any detail, I’ll just say that it didn’t happen this time. So again, there are some question marks.
 
3) People have created their own state like in the Gezi Protests of 2015. Everyone, is getting organized and EVERYONE is doing something, one way or the other. So this is also a terrific thing to witness.
 
One thing I can add: Many people do not trust local organizations (not even the Turkish Red Cross that has a 200 year history. So I made donations to a well-known Rock Singer who is directing donations to the affected areas. Non AK Party municipalities are also organizing similar efforts on their own. I also believe international organization like UNICEF to be very trustworthy because we must not forget that rebel-held warzones of Syria were also greatly affected and no one knows if Bashar or Vladimir are going to let aid flow into these regions or not. So here is the UNICEF web page:

https://www.unicef.org/emergencies/Syria...earthquake
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Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Fake Messiah - February 6, 2023 at 1:07 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by brewer - February 6, 2023 at 2:38 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Anomalocaris - February 6, 2023 at 4:16 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 10, 2023 at 2:02 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by brewer - February 6, 2023 at 10:05 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Fake Messiah - February 7, 2023 at 3:53 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by brewer - February 8, 2023 at 3:27 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Fake Messiah - February 8, 2023 at 4:02 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Brian37 - February 8, 2023 at 7:26 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Anomalocaris - February 8, 2023 at 4:37 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 7, 2023 at 5:42 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Jackalope - February 7, 2023 at 3:42 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Anomalocaris - February 7, 2023 at 8:03 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by brewer - February 7, 2023 at 7:08 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 9, 2023 at 11:36 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Anomalocaris - February 9, 2023 at 12:15 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 10, 2023 at 1:48 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 14, 2023 at 5:47 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 18, 2023 at 6:08 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 26, 2023 at 6:23 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 26, 2023 at 11:09 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2023 at 11:34 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 26, 2023 at 2:02 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2023 at 4:05 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 27, 2023 at 5:27 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 28, 2023 at 5:44 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - February 28, 2023 at 6:50 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by The Grand Nudger - February 28, 2023 at 5:09 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - March 3, 2023 at 8:43 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - March 16, 2023 at 7:33 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by The Grand Nudger - March 16, 2023 at 4:51 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - March 21, 2023 at 8:36 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Deesse23 - March 21, 2023 at 8:43 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - April 15, 2023 at 8:31 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - May 9, 2023 at 8:52 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by The Grand Nudger - May 9, 2023 at 9:55 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - May 11, 2023 at 10:35 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - May 17, 2023 at 6:35 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - May 17, 2023 at 6:35 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - May 27, 2023 at 6:22 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 27, 2023 at 7:48 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - June 1, 2023 at 2:39 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Deesse23 - June 1, 2023 at 5:55 am
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by Leonardo17 - June 6, 2023 at 1:58 pm
RE: Over 2300 dead in Turkey - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 6, 2023 at 5:39 pm

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