(September 6, 2023 at 7:19 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Violence is never necessary, though it's often expedient.
There's an interesting angle to this in the case of revolutionaries. They've often been indoctrinated into the status quo - and carry that with them even as they engage in revolutionary acts. You don't hear a big group of rebels put out manifestos about how they had to rebel because it was a tuesday and they wanted an extra juicebar. It's always some flowery bits about a huge grievance. One big enough to overcome..but still seated thoroughly within, their preexisting indoctrination.
People who want to make a better state don't want to destroy their states. Their states are still the focus. Still the sacrosanct object. The severity of their perceived grievance allows them to argue that drastic violence against the state apparatus is expedient, for repairing the state apparatus. It's not necessary, there are other ways to get to that better state. Just not right now, not right quick.
Something like that was what I was trying to say. Police and the army only use it because they are qualified to use it, and only when it is necessary, are they not? As for everyone else, not only is violence wrong and qualified, but with many other ways to solve problems, we don't even need violence at all.