RE: Militant Atheism?
September 19, 2023 at 3:45 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2023 at 3:50 pm by Data.)
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: It would only be hypocritical if I acted against my own professed ideology.
If your ideology is to object and you object to objection what is that if not hypocritical.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: It isn't hypocritical to think my opinion is best and others not. That's not hypocrisy. It may be other things, but it's not hypocritical.
I'm really curious why so many fundamentalist militant atheists use words without conforming to their standard definition, even while accursing others of doing the same while the latter use the source of that standard definition. Hypocrisy: "the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense." You object to others objecting. Double standard. Hypocrisy.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I agree it's not fair. I put murderers behind bars and allow non-murderers to walk free. It's not equal.
Stop that. It is fair. Murderers should be put to death and non-murderers should walk free. It doesn't always work like that, though, sometimes murderers walk and non-murderers are put to death. Because people think they are right when they're not or they think they make the rules and can decide which is which.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: They think they're right, but they are wrong.
The same may apply to you.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I don't believe in live and let live. I don't want to ignore my neighbour molesting his kids. I won't just let him have his opinion and lifestyle.
I didn't say molest and let molest, I said live and let live. I'm not talking about murder and child molestation, I'm talking about religious belief or lack thereof. Someone who believes in something has the right to do so just as you do. You take that away because you think you're right and someone else will eventually take it away from you.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Actual harm. Yes, that's what we are talking about. I totally understand someone might think the same about me, but I would think they are wrong. A Nazi thinks they're in the right. I don't. That's not stupidity or hypocrisy. That's a difference of opinion. Yes,everyone prefers their own beliefs. So I'm no different.
But you're doing the same thing as the Nazi. The Nazis thought they were right. The British and Americans thought they were right committing the atrocities they've committed.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: And if I'm a hypocrite so is everyone and it's moot.
Well, I'm not going to argue that.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: In short, then, I reject your claim I'm being hypocritical.
Oakey dokey.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: So, again, why should I not object to religion?
Your reasons are your own. For me personally it's their violence, greed, fraud, distortion, etc. I would advise you think carefully about what you are objecting to exactly, and why, and how those objections could, if put into practice, hinder your own opinions, beliefs (disbeliefs) etc.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I think religion is harmful.
I agree.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I don't want it in society.
Societies are harmful.
(September 19, 2023 at 1:15 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: If religionists don't want my ideology in society they're wrong. That's not hypocritical, it's ethnocentric perhaps, but not hypocritical.
It doesn't matter if they are wrong, especially when you may be the one wrong. Right and wrong are subjective. Who decides what is right and what is wrong and how do they do that? What are the potential errors?