(January 6, 2024 at 4:23 am)JJoseph Wrote: Hi all. I'm curious if any of you can refute the Kalam cosmological argument for God's existence
Step 1: Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
E.g. Houses, Trees, Planets etc begin to exist and have a cause. So does the Universe, which brings us to Step 2.
Step 2: The Universe began to exist.
This step is also proven by mathematical logic, has empirical confirmation in the Big Bang Theory etc.
Step 3: Therefore, the Universe has a cause.
The conclusion logically follows from the preceding premises. Dr. Craig occasionally goes for a further step.
Step 4: Therefore, an Eternal Creator of the Universe exists, that brought the Universe into existence from nothing.
This sounds very much like the traditional Creator God of classical Judeo-Christian Revelation? Any thoughts on the subject?
Regards,
Joseph.
OK, so what caused the "Eternal Creator of the Universe" to exist? and if he/it "always existed why can't the universe have always existed?
We don't know (yet) what created the universe, but "I don't know" is not the same as "god did it"
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Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!