(January 6, 2024 at 4:23 am)JJoseph Wrote: Hi all. I'm curious if any of you can refute the Kalam cosmological argument for God's existence
Step 1: Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
E.g. Houses, Trees, Planets etc begin to exist and have a cause. So does the Universe, which brings us to Step 2.
Step 2: The Universe began to exist.
This step is also proven by mathematical logic, has empirical confirmation in the Big Bang Theory etc.
Step 3: Therefore, the Universe has a cause.
The conclusion logically follows from the preceding premises. Dr. Craig occasionally goes for a further step.
Step 4: Therefore, an Eternal Creator of the Universe exists, that brought the Universe into existence from nothing.
This sounds very much like the traditional Creator God of classical Judeo-Christian Revelation? Any thoughts on the subject?
Regards,
Joseph.
1) Prove that the universe "began to exist", 2) prove that your version of god is eternal.
The Kalam is self defeating because it assumes firstly that everything must have a beginning but then posits a thing which cannot have a beginning (otherwise how would there be an ultimate cause) to solve the initial problem.
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