RE: Atheism is a religion
December 28, 2011 at 2:25 pm
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2011 at 2:38 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(December 27, 2011 at 1:00 am)passionatefool Wrote: Does it irritates you when religious people say Atheism is a religion? I mean does that statement even make sense? Is this some sort of mental defense thing to make them feel more comfortable? Like "Ha! You are no different. ATHEISM IS A RELIGION!". I don't see how lacking a fundamental belief system in some higher being or faith, which is what religion is, make it a religion? I don't know, I get this A LOT! I'm just about tired of it, in fact I was just in a debate about it, it makes no sense and it irritates me beyond imagination. Some Atheists I know even think science is BS! so No Science isn't a holy scripture or religious scripture either! It isn't based on blind faith.
Okay sorry for the rant.
It's not the arguement that atheism being a kind of faith that irritates me. It's the reasons behind it.
Theists want atheism to be a religion because they want them and us to be on equal terms by way of saying that "well your beliefs are just as ridiculous".
Their reasonings for this is rooted in a lovely combination of the usual bias and ignorance but they need to bring us to that level because they have no arguements to justify their own faith over the evidence that atheists typically use to coutner their claims and they need to invalidate our claims.
So, it's not really the arguement itself that bugs me, but dispelling the stubborn and ignorant reasoning they use to justify their claims is more annoying.
What's more annoying is arguing points that can be dispelled by a simple google search - like all those points I was making on another thread about relativity. The idiot in question doesn't know a lick about physics and was just repeating what he read about anisotropic synchrony convention (the idea that light travels at half C away from the earth but infinately fast toward the earth - it's an AIG paper that attempts to justify genesis) and all he had to do to learn how we measure the speed of light is through a simple google search to learn that we really don't time light through clock synchronization.
This is, of course, in addition to the fact that he didn't listen to any of my points regarding just how impossible a variable speed of light is given our reliance on C being precisely equal to C at all times from all perspectives.
The most annoying thing though - they don't FUCKING LISTEN. They edit out my main points and respond in such a way that they just repeat what they told me and simply ignore all of my counterpoints.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan