RE: Atheism is a religion
January 2, 2012 at 2:19 am
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2012 at 2:31 am by passionatefool.)
(January 2, 2012 at 1:57 am)chipan Wrote:passionatefool Wrote:Just because it is a belief, doesnt mean it is spiritual, and doesn't mean it is a religion either.
ok then how would you catigorize this belief? it's not physical that's for sure. i believe it is a spiritual belief b/c God is spiritual and how can you have an opinion about something spiritual if it's not you don't hold any spiritual beliefs? it's like saying you don't believe in politics but you still vote.
passionatefool Wrote:The "belief" that there is no god or deity is the lack of spirituality
how can you dabate religion without taking a side? how can you take a side on religion without holding a religious belief?
passionatefool Wrote:To think or belief there is no god make it a religion, then you have a lot of religions. You are abuddha, avisnu, and so on, and all of your nonbelief in each of these deities make it a religion, so you are not a protestant, you have many religions.
no, believing in one god and not another is not the same as believing there is no god. saying athism isn't a belief is like saying 0 isn't a number. just b/c it's not possitive or negative does not mean it's not a number.
but you do hold a good arguement passionatefool
Once again, I never claimed atheism isn't a belief, however it is not a spiritual or religious belief which make it not a religion, just because it's a belief, doesn't mean it is a religion. I believe in justice, does that make it a Justicism religion? And who do i worship? Lady justice? Should i offer her slaughtered goats? However if you consider all belief (or stance on issue) to be a religion (including I believe chocolate cake tastes better than vanilla cake) then Atheisn is a religion but you got to be pretty....out there.... completely lost touch of logic and rationality to think that.
The reason why there is even an issue to debate over is that you hold spiritiual and religious belief, and atheist don't, we take the "side" of non-religion. Not having a spiritual belief is, once again, can't be spirituality itself or a religion. It's an argument fallacy. This is like you are saying being healthy, free of illness, is an illness. It makes no sense....
The "side" that atheists take is the non-religion side.
and it is the same. You don't believe in Buddha, or any other deities except one, so you have many religions if we are going to use your argument, the belief that other gods or deities doesnt exist is itself a religion. You must understand that Christianity falls under the same category and is not in anyway more special than any other religions.
But honestly I dont even think "belief" itself hardly qualify it as a religion. There are other requirement such as the the belief in the existence of some supernatural being/beings. There must be rituals and religious scriptures and so on. Atheism lacks all of it because it isnt a religion. It is very simple. I dont understand why you are even trying to make it a religion. It just doesnt work.