(January 8, 2012 at 9:06 am)amkerman Wrote: Kichiga:
I believe shelly is a part of God. I believe you are too. I can't help that many posters seem to be either too stubborn or too obtuse to get what I am saying.
Have you ever wondered if your powers of explanation are what is lacking? I realize that it goes against our innate senses of ego to see that perhaps we are not perfect. Nonetheless, the majority of people here have no fucking clue what you are trying to say. What you have managed to get across sounds like utter hokum. There are two possibilities here, to my mind. You either cannot express yourself regardless of the number of threads you hop into or you believe something that sounds like nonsense to nearly everyone else.
Quote:Stick with your definitions
Again, acke, definitions are what make communication possible. You should not expect people to understand what you are saying when you are operating under your own personal definitions. I mean, you are using a very clear scientific/mathematic phrase incorrectly and then freaking out that people do not agree with you. I can't believe you wonder why people are calling you out.
Quote:and cling to your irrational beliefs.
That's exactly why most posters here appear to hope you lose your ability to type. You expect us all to adhere to your inner dictionary and then call us irrational. Why don't you try using established definitions to convey your message? I know why. You want to somehow insult atheists by calling atheism a religion -- which I find funny. In order to do that, you have to make up a definition for religion that is not established. You are not the first theist to come in here and do that. In fact, you are one of dozens. They all say the same thing. They all admit to using different definitions. At least a handful of them have done exactly what you are doing -- acting as if using definitions is some form of intellectual hindrance. It was ridiculous before and it is ridiculous now. If you can establish a link between the known definitions for both atheism and religion, you have something. However, making up your own definitions for things is unacceptable in a debate.
Quote:It's fine. Believe that "definition"can be objectively "true" or "false". Believe further that objectivity actually exists in reality at all. Great. It is a belief in God, regardless of how you "define" that belief.
Acke, you can think whatever you want. That is fine. However, asserting that everyone believes in god whether they define it that way is not. In other words, trying to paint your belief onto other people and push them into thinking it by manipulation is preaching. You can be warned for that here. Create links between your assertions and use actual definitions to convey what you are saying and someone might listen to you. Keep banging you head against a wall saying, "You believe in god whether you know it or not, atheism is a religion!" will get you nowhere.
You obviously came here with two goals in mind -- establish atheism as a religion and establish that everyone believes in god. Every question you ask is loaded. That is intellectually dishonest and rude. You are not making any friends that way.