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Which political party do you support and why?
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RE: Which political party do you support and why?
(January 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm)Justtristo Wrote:
(January 18, 2012 at 10:13 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: So WHICH "green-house gases" are we looking to reduce?? Water vapour? CO2? Methane? Nitrosoxide?

http://www.eia.gov/oiaf/1605/ggccebro/chapter1.html
Many gases exhibit these “greenhouse” properties. Some of them occur in nature (water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide), while others are exclusively human-made (like gases used for aerosols).

The ones which need to be reduced in priority are Carbon dioxide, Methane, Nitrous Oxide along with CFCs (although emissions of those are regulated now).

Ah yes the easy ones first that contribute to the invention of a new global commodity - Carbon trading.

(January 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm)Justtristo Wrote:
Quote:How are you going to reduce methane?? I am not up on the latest agricultural practices (used here in Australia) but much has been done over the last 20-30 years to improve the productivity and viability of our farms. The "Green-Movement" advocated the use of plantation trees...great idea so many farms set aside areas for such and have to wait 20 years for the end product. Pine is the worst as I have been told that you can only get two crops out of the soil before it is totally useless and only good for dust storms.

What is wrong with using non-THC Hemp?
http://www.livescience.com/16638-pot-gen...ation.html

Introducing non-THC hemp into production on a widespread scale, would depend how much carbon can Hemp "trap" compared to say trees over a long period of time.

I am to understand that young trees sequester more carbon and so "Tree Planting is a priority. The Hemp idea is to stop the felling of forests to provide paper not as a CO2 capture initiative..I was trying to think outside the narrow CO2 box



(January 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm)Justtristo Wrote:
Quote:Very nice dear but I think you are a bit late to the table and still getting caught up in the enviro-mental pseudo-religious hype. I am hoping that I have at least shown you that Australia has been working on these solutions for decades if not longer (one report said 80years). The assumption that farmers are greedy and only want to rape the land is stupid in the extreme ill-informed at best. The mining companies that I have loosely worked with here in WA... BHP, Chevron, FMG, do seem go to great expense to obtain the valuable export materials with as minimal impact to the environment as possible. Not the least to mention providing jobs for an entire state. (Much much Larger than NSW)

I did not mean governments and companies have not done anything to combat Global Warming. Indeed I applaud the efforts done so far. However I was just merely stating what needs to be done in order to successfully combat Global Warming.

This is what you are implying and ALL that is and has been done is towards this goal. We still haven't addressed the North Pacific Garbage Dump...any ideas on 'carbon capture' for that??

(January 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm)Justtristo Wrote: Believe me I am extremely rational in comparison to a lot of people in the environmentalist movement in Australia. They are way too technophobic and attached to superstitious thinking for my liking.

Quote:Why is it that a scientist of a major, high profile research study has made his papers null and void to the Peer Review process by releasing information prior to the completion of the Peer Review Process?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...eague.html

The bottom of the two graphs in that article only shows temperature changes over a period of a few years, to show an more accurate picture of climate change. The charts should be plotted over a period of say 50-100 years, with a 10 year mean line.

Have a look again.

(January 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm)Justtristo Wrote:
Quote:Why make NBN such a higher priority and then threaten Internet censorship?

The NBN (National Broadband Network) will reap enormous benefits in the long run, it is well worth the investment. I wish both state and federal governments were more willing to borrow money in order to construct new roads (especially highways and freeways) along with upgrading the railways. Although Governments aim towards fiscal discipline and only borrow money when it is necessary (like say if there is a war or to finance infrastructure projects).


But so will erecting solar powered electricity grids...why have they not been looked at is my point so far

(January 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm)Justtristo Wrote: In the last fifty years, the governments of Europe and United States (by running deficits) borrowed money for peacetime general government spending (as opposed to infrastructure funding or wartime spending) and that is one of the reasons why some of these nations are in the crisis they are in at the moment. In Australia in recent decades for the most part, governments at both state and federal levels have been reluctant to borrow money (even for infrastructure projects, which there is a estimated $700 billion backlog). With the Coalition parties (very likely) going to be in power in every state and territory, not to mention federally in the next few years. There will be a return back to trend of the last three decades of fiscal discipline and reluctance to rack up debt.

You seen the latest figures the IMF want to support that borrowing?? Each country contributing...

(January 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm)Justtristo Wrote: About the home water tank scheme, I believe the money would have been better spent in building water recycling plants and building new dams where they can be built. Not to mention more realistic pricing for irrigation water.

These were done. I am talking about the home user here. Reasonable price for irrigation water from a river system that was dying??

(January 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm)Justtristo Wrote: I do know about the desalination plant in Perth, however the one being built in Victoria is a waste of money. Because water recycling and building a new dam on the Mitchell River in Gippsland would have been a lot more cheaper.

You know how opposed to new dams the "greenies" are here. I understand the de-salination plant in Sydney only services the Botany Bay industrial area. Still... it could be seen as a step in the right direction.


(January 18, 2012 at 11:44 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:
Quote:Why is it that a scientist of a major, high profile research study has made his papers null and void to the Peer Review process by releasing information prior to the completion of the Peer Review Process?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...eague.html

Can someone please fucking show me a link OTHER than the shitmail?

Wikipedia (hint - hit 'esc' as it loads) and Google News shows nothing.

What's the problem Moros??
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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Messages In This Thread
Which political party do you support and why? - by Justtristo - December 15, 2011 at 7:28 am
RE: Which political party do you support and why? - by Tiberius - December 15, 2011 at 10:17 am
RE: Which political party do you support and why? - by frankiej - December 15, 2011 at 10:22 am
RE: Which political party do you support and why? - by Erinome - December 15, 2011 at 10:17 am
RE: Which political party do you support and why? - by rhonin85 - December 15, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: Which political party do you support and why? - by Darth - December 16, 2011 at 10:11 pm
RE: Which political party do you support and why? - by Darth - December 27, 2011 at 1:41 am
RE: Which political party do you support and why? - by KichigaiNeko - January 19, 2012 at 1:14 am

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