Atheism is a religion

[Zen Badger]

Explain to the rest of the class how the laryngeal nerve of the giraffe is a product of intelligent design and we'll go from there.

P.s you are just the latest in a loooong line of uninformed, self important ass clowns that have barged on to this forum spouting this bullshit like we haven't heard it all before.

So please don't be surprised when you are dismissed out of hand.

And you are of a loooong line of atheists who point to the same supposedly useless structures. There are logical reasons the nerve is that long, we just haven't discovered all of them (gee, where have I heard that argument before?)

If fact we have discovered the reason and it is a direct result of evolution.

Scientists used to think the appendix was useless, and lo: it protects beneficial bacteria. Back in more primitive ages, humans probably needed that function more.

I wasn't asking about the appendix.

What ID critics don't say is that there are multiple nerves that do take a shortened path. If the tendency is to evolve to fix these kind of problems, why was that one nerve left out? All species are described to be in their prefect niche with only the right genes kept through natural selection, and you point out the one error as being a problem for ID? What about a problem for evolution?

The giraffes laryngeal nerve only makes sense if you look at it from an evolutionary perspective.

That said, there are functions! For instance, in humans it serves as an early warning to get medical care. Diseases that would be hidden deep in the chest are revealed through speech and throat problems. In that case, how lucky we were NOT to receive a nerve-shortcut mutation. Or maybe.. just maybe God was looking out for us.

Funny, I don't recall saying that it was a useless organ.
The question being why would a supposedly "intelligent" designer route the nerve all the way down the giraffes neck and then back up again to terminate inches from where it started?

This site describes it more scientifically:
http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/sho...hp/id/1507

It quotes, "The path of the RLN allows it to give off filaments to the heart, to the mucous membranes and to the muscles of the trachea along the way to the larynx," and goes on to describe the nerve's uses.

Actually it doesn't, though it does talk about the human laryngeal nerve(a nice segue there) ]

If you want an ID by God standpoint:
http://antiochapologetics.blogspot.com/2...affes.html

Yes, indeed. Yet another clown who has no idea how evolution actually works, and I quote....

"Every life form that has ever lived appeared in the fossil record fully formed, fully functional, and fully adapted to its time on earth and its role in the ecology into which it was created."

Well of course it bloody would!!! that doesn't mean it hasn't evolved.
Successful mutational change is incremental (even the cretinists admit to "micro-evolution")
All that is required is sufficient time, billions of years. And that that was available is beyond debating.

BTW here is a diagram of the giraffes laryngeal nerve

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...TjYhd3wZow