(August 10, 2009 at 11:50 am)Jon Paul Wrote:(August 10, 2009 at 6:47 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And your entire argument ignores the hosting complexities that ALL (without exception) these vacuous scenarios entail ... I am still considering my reply to Archy.It doesn't. Postulating the reality and world of our qualitative, subjective sense experience to be an actually ontologically independently existing reality outside of your mind is something far more complex and far more extensive than not doing so. Ultimate reductionism reduces the ontological to the epistemic realm, and leads to absolute skepticism, and solipsism.
Yes it does!
It's a simple enough concept but I will have to delve into IT for an analogy ... if I have a windows server then I host it on physical hardware. We have the server OS and we have the hardware. Ignoring power and connected network which would exist in both scenarios you have 2 layers of complexity.
If I virtualise it ... I have to simulate the hardware and I have to support that simulation. Therefore we now have effectively 4 layers of complexity ... the OS, the simulated machine, the hosting OS and the physical hardware the hosting OS is running on. Some of those layers can be more simple but the whole, of necessity, must be MORE complex than the primary simulation because it NOT ONLY HAS TO RUN THE SIMULATION IT HAS TO RUN ITSELF!!!!!!
Even if you postulate that the host is someone dreaming that host still has the biological equivalent of hardware and operating system so the same applies ... this isn't rocket science!
Kyu
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