RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 6, 2012 at 8:35 am
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2012 at 8:50 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 6, 2012 at 1:42 am)C Rod Wrote: And you would refuse it. You need it and hes the only one that is giving it. What do you do after if its proven? You going to starting kicking and screaming or maybe you'll say its not fair. You got your pride right.
Where there is anger there is pain.
It is scapegoating but a more apt recognition would be sacrifice, willing, loving sacrifice.
Start there then, prove it. lol. If you could, I would simply remind you that it is still scapegoating, and that this puts the nail in the coffin for your deity. It isn't worthy of my respect, let alone my worship. I don't bend the knee to scapegoaters (human or otherwise). If this god of yours wanted to be some sort of standard for morality and goodness then it should have acted in a manner that was at least more more, more good, than myself. What sort of deity is incapable of forming a better morality than that of a "fallen" creation? Are you arguing for a twisted god or an incompetent one?
In this case, where there is anger there's an ass spouting bullshit. Go fuck yourself.
A masochist's gift does not appeal to me, as I am not a sadist. If there was love involved, then perhaps there should have been consideration given to the fact that I would find this abhorrent, or maybe this "gift" should not be forced upon me by consequence? This whole "gift" business makes your god seem awfully shortsighted and sick. But hell, you're a scapegoater, so let's have at it. Where else do you think we could employ this scapegoating business. There's a willing, loving, mother for every murderer executed. What other personal problems do you figure we could shove onto a proxy and then wash away by "willing, loving sacrifice"? The economy is in the shitter and we have a ton of immigrants in this country, how's about we blame that on the Mexicans..and then I bet it'll go away? The whole concept is idiotic at best, and completely evil at worst (your sin washing bit falls on the latter end of that spectrum). You keep asserting something about willing sacrifice, and love, but it's entirely meaningless, as the only part of this equation that actually exists is you. You aren't accepting a gift, you're trying to shirk responsibility for whatever facet of yourself you find unappealing. Stowing all of your perceived faults away in the corpse of a dead man and saying "Oh, but he wanted it". How very convenient for you. You haven't been able to explain exactly how this blood magic is supposed to work in the first place, but that's irrelevant to the purpose of the idea, which is nothing more than evasion.
Just what is it that you've done that you need to push onto your favorite proxy?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
