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Somebody said this to me
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RE: Somebody said this to me
(April 26, 2012 at 4:16 pm)cdabamsworth Wrote: Somebody I know said:

"The universe exists. The universe has a beginning (big bang) and an end (freeze). The idea of it collapsing again is absurd, what would cause that? The universe couldn’t have created itself, as it had to have been in existence first (common sense) in order to have done so. So, something OUTSIDE the universe created the universe. The universe is all space, time, and matter (theory of relativity). Something outside time created it. Could be an abstract idea, but have you ever seen a number affect something? What else is outside the universe? Nothing. So, nothing comes from nothing (common sense). Nothing isn’t the creator. So, it’s a disembodied mind that created it. It is outside time, space, and matter. It’s a disembodied mind because there is no other answer.

I can create a sand box, and I am not a sand box. I can still interact with the sandbox while remaining separate from it. In the same way, God interacts with us. I attribute this mind to the Judeo-Christian God. The logical answer is there, even if you are blinded to it."

I'm interested to hear what you think about this; it would be most helpful if you could do what seems impossible and make actual sense of it and provide counter-arguments Thinking
The thing holding this together is the assumption that the universe had a beginning. There are theories being derived that state that there's more dimensions than what we can comprehend. If this is correct then the big bang was merely the expansion of 3 of these dimensions.

Hundreds of years ago the problem that would explain the existance of god(s) is e.g. rain. How is it falling fron the sky? Well now we have a sensible explanation for that. It's only a matter of time before the apparently unexplainable existence of the universe has a sensible answer, therefore pushing the domain of God to the next 'impossible' thing...
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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Somebody said this to me - by cdabamsworth - April 26, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Tobie - April 26, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Colanth - June 15, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Cyberman - April 26, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Erinome - April 26, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Paul the Human - April 26, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Ace Otana - April 27, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 7:50 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Ace Otana - April 27, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Welsh cake - April 26, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by FallentoReason - April 26, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Erinome - April 27, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by fuckass365 - April 27, 2012 at 6:45 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by frankiej - April 27, 2012 at 7:52 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Faith No More - April 27, 2012 at 8:28 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 8:54 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 8:59 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 9:23 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 9:25 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 9:36 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 9:52 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 28, 2012 at 5:59 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 28, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 28, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 28, 2012 at 8:21 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 10:16 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Phil - April 27, 2012 at 11:09 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - April 29, 2012 at 6:19 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by cdabamsworth - May 12, 2012 at 5:31 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - May 12, 2012 at 5:38 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by cdabamsworth - May 12, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by MrSqurk - May 17, 2012 at 8:36 pm
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Angrboda - June 16, 2012 at 12:48 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Whateverist - June 16, 2012 at 1:06 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Jackalope - June 16, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by Zen Badger - June 18, 2012 at 6:16 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by KichigaiNeko - June 18, 2012 at 6:18 am
RE: Somebody said this to me - by padraic - June 19, 2012 at 5:16 am

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