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A list of all of God's crimes
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
God hasn't committed any crimes any more than Lex Luthor could commit crimes. The REAL crime is the willful ignorance of humans who know better but don't care.

When someone tells you the earth rotates around the sun, and they have proven it, it is a crime to put them under house arrest.

But, as far as a character in a book, Hitchens rightfully described this God character as a dictator in a "celestial North Korea".

Now for the theists reading this, PLEASE DO NOT pathetically accuse me or anyone here of hate. There is a huge difference between hating a person, and hating a claim a person makes.

WHEN you look at the core attribute of the God character, one can only define it as a dictator. He is immovable, you cannot vote him out of office, you cannot impeach him, and no matter what you do, he has the final say.

In the western world we do not value such leaders. In life outside that book, when our leaders fuck up, we can hold them to account. When we want to replace them, we can. And they do not have absolute power or the absolute final say.

To ask me or suggest to me, to like or find credible such a claim, is absurd.

But to the title of the thread, the God character is a monster. He is fine with you as long as you tow the gang minion line. But even the mere infraction of not wanting to belong to his club will send you to eternal torture. How would that be any different if a North Korean spoke out against Kim Jung Ill?

From the start he sets up the rules for innocent people, sets a trap for them based on a bet, and then blames them for the rules he did not have to set up and blames people who had no way of knowing what the rules were.

Then when he cannot set up the army men this all powerful god created, he causes a flood, which is an act of mass genocide which would include the drowning of women and children.

Then you have the infanticide of the Egyptians and the attempt on Jesus when he was a baby which got babies who were not the target, murdered.

Then the final story at the end of that book would be like a parent with children, handing them knives and saying "you to stab the fuck out of each other and the last one standing gets to hang out with me".

The God character is much like a mugger "I'll give you two choices. 1. Give me your wallet and I let you live. 2. You can keep your wallet, and I'll blow your head off".

There is nothing moral about a motif that promotes the idea that you cannot be yourself and you cannot think for yourself and will be punished for even the mere infraction of not wanting to join a particular club.

The good news is that no such monster exists. The bad news is that people want a super hero to exist but refuse to see that that super hero motif sets up a dictatorship where being an outsider is wrong.

The bible is not a "good book" unless you are a mafia boss. God as a motif is the essence of a monopoly.
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A list of all of God's crimes - by AthiestAtheist - June 3, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Tobie - June 3, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Minimalist - June 3, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 3, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Cyberman - June 3, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Annik - June 3, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 3, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by AthiestAtheist - June 4, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Napoléon - June 3, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Welsh cake - June 3, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 3, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Godschild - June 3, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 4, 2012 at 12:36 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 4, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Godschild - June 4, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Reforged - June 4, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Anomalocaris - June 5, 2012 at 1:48 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 5, 2012 at 1:49 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Godschild - June 5, 2012 at 1:58 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Anomalocaris - June 5, 2012 at 2:03 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 5, 2012 at 1:41 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 5, 2012 at 8:57 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Reforged - June 5, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by AthiestAtheist - June 5, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 5, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 6, 2012 at 2:47 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 7, 2012 at 7:18 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 7, 2012 at 5:17 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 8, 2012 at 3:54 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 8, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 9, 2012 at 2:38 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 9, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by AthiestAtheist - June 10, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by AthiestAtheist - June 9, 2012 at 2:54 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 10, 2012 at 8:30 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by AthiestAtheist - June 8, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by AthiestAtheist - June 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Anomalocaris - June 10, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Cyberman - June 3, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Angrboda - June 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Cyberman - June 3, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Godschild - June 3, 2012 at 11:32 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Reforged - June 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Cyberman - June 3, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Annik - June 4, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 4, 2012 at 7:30 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by kılıç_mehmet - June 4, 2012 at 9:24 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 4, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by kılıç_mehmet - June 4, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Gooders1002 - June 4, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Welsh cake - June 4, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Angrboda - June 4, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Faith No More - June 4, 2012 at 10:54 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Angrboda - June 5, 2012 at 2:28 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Godschild - June 5, 2012 at 2:44 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Faith No More - June 5, 2012 at 8:23 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Anomalocaris - June 6, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Faith No More - June 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Thor - June 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Bravo - June 7, 2012 at 4:59 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 7, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Jackalope - June 7, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 8, 2012 at 5:37 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 9, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Jackalope - June 9, 2012 at 8:48 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 9, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Jackalope - June 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 9, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Jackalope - June 9, 2012 at 10:10 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 9, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Adjusted Sanity - June 9, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 9, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by The Grand Nudger - June 9, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Cyberman - June 9, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by The Grand Nudger - June 10, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Deicide73 - June 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 10, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by genkaus - June 11, 2012 at 4:20 am
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 11, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 10, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Brian37 - June 10, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: A list of all of God's crimes - by Reforged - June 11, 2012 at 7:33 pm

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