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Healthcare
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RE: Healthcare
(June 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm)Metonymie Wrote: As a european (german) I don't get the problems with healthcare in the U.S.

Can someone explain to me why so many americans are against it and on what base ?

An article about it:
http://www.achgut.com/dadgdx/index.php/d...obamacare/

While America I do think has better law language protecting dissent, IE People vs Larry Flint, as much as we like to think we are ahead of the curve, we have always had to struggle to get with the times, slavery, Native Americans and women rights and voting rights for blacks, and even today gay marriage are part of our history.

So my only explanation is that we suffer far to much from narcissism. I think change is slow for any culture in our species history. You get used to a pattern, it is hard to change.

(June 30, 2012 at 6:23 pm)goddamnit Wrote:
(June 29, 2012 at 8:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: There is already a transfer of wealth going on.....

[Image: income.jpg]


And it isn't the minorities who are benefitting.
I just explicitly stated I am not talking about the status quo, and that I meant socialized healthcare would transfer wealth to minorities. Then you posted a graph that had nothing to do with contrasting healthcare models. I guess you were posting the graph for the sake of sharing rather than a rebuttal?

Also, that graph (in and of itself) is not evidence there is a transfer of wealth or income from the poor to the rich. All it shows is that the upper quintiles have more rapid income increases. I read a great book that explained one reason why technology increases the demand for high-skilled workers and raises the wages more than for low-skilled jobs.

This is not to say there is or is not a transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich; rather, I am only claiming the graph alone does not prove your inference.

There is no such thing as a "low skilled" job. People who say that are the people who do it for a summer or a couple days a week. Your garbage man and your dishwasher are more than the task you falsely think is "simple".

This is such an demeaning and insidious claim. It takes a "simple" task and forgets to take into account, WHAT ALL JOBS REQUIRE.

Prioritizing, communication skills, speed, dexterity, planning ahead, conflict resolution, volume control, customer relations.

Scrubbing one dish on a slow day is easy. Doing it on Easter Sunday with newbie bussers and cooks screaming their heads off for dishes because the boss is too cheap to buy more. Low skilled is the cry of those who look down at a small paycheck as if they were offering them cake.

There is NO SUCH THING AS A LOW SKILL JOB! There are simply people who make more and make less. What is easy to one person will be hard to another.
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Messages In This Thread
Healthcare - by Metonymie - June 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Healthcare - by frankiej - June 29, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Minimalist - June 29, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Napoléon - June 29, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Tiberius - July 2, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: Healthcare - by Minimalist - June 29, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Anomalocaris - June 29, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Healthcare - by JohnDG - June 29, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Anomalocaris - July 2, 2012 at 11:19 am
RE: Healthcare - by jackman - June 29, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Healthcare - by 5thHorseman - June 29, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Healthcare - by goddamnit - June 29, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Healthcare - by cratehorus - July 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Minimalist - June 29, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Healthcare - by goddamnit - June 29, 2012 at 8:02 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Minimalist - June 29, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Healthcare - by goddamnit - June 30, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Erinome - June 30, 2012 at 3:42 am
RE: Healthcare - by JohnDG - June 30, 2012 at 5:31 am
RE: Healthcare - by Jaysyn - June 30, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Metonymie - June 30, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Whateverist - July 1, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: Healthcare - by Erinome - June 30, 2012 at 6:52 am
RE: Healthcare - by Gambit - June 30, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: Healthcare - by Gambit - June 30, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Zarathustra - June 30, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: Healthcare - by jackman - June 30, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Jackalope - June 30, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Healthcare - by jackman - June 30, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Brian37 - June 30, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Brian37 - June 30, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Healthcare - by goddamnit - June 30, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Jackalope - June 30, 2012 at 9:40 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Justtristo - June 30, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Angrboda - June 30, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Annik - June 30, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Jquik26 - July 1, 2012 at 1:53 am
RE: Healthcare - by jackman - July 1, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Healthcare - by Metonymie - July 1, 2012 at 11:24 am
RE: Healthcare - by frankiej - July 2, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Healthcare - by KichigaiNeko - July 2, 2012 at 9:39 am
RE: Healthcare - by kılıç_mehmet - July 3, 2012 at 8:45 am
RE: Healthcare - by jackman - July 3, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: Healthcare - by cratehorus - July 7, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Polaris - July 11, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Gambit - July 11, 2012 at 11:43 pm
RE: Healthcare - by jackman - July 12, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Autumnlicious - July 12, 2012 at 1:02 am
RE: Healthcare - by Polaris - July 12, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Healthcare - by Deicide73 - July 12, 2012 at 8:00 am
RE: Healthcare - by padraic - July 12, 2012 at 9:28 am
RE: Healthcare - by Autumnlicious - July 12, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: Healthcare - by Polaris - July 12, 2012 at 9:57 pm
RE: Healthcare - by jackman - July 13, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: Healthcare - by Polaris - July 13, 2012 at 10:02 am

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