(August 30, 2012 at 5:22 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Before we all get spiralling off down the Yellow Brick Road, let's just review:
(August 30, 2012 at 3:29 am)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: ... do you just like getting diddled?
(August 30, 2012 at 6:27 am)greneknight Wrote: the church doesn't do that to anyone.
(August 30, 2012 at 5:02 pm)I Wrote: [Quotes documented example of the church doing just that and by way of admission settling out of court]
(August 30, 2012 at 5:08 pm)greneknight Wrote: Huge difference. Many churches have scandal of their own and that's natural. There's scandal everywhere. But only the RC church has a systemic coverup that extends to making the child victim swear an oath of secrecy on pain of excommunication and enjoining all parties to keep secret everything and not to report to the authorities.
Let's keep it in focus that we're not discussing whether there are coverups of abuse scandals, which I would hope we can all agree there are; the issue at hand is that such abuse takes place at all.
To put it another way:
That's not what I said. You must quote me in full and not cut up my single sentence and present only one portion. This is what I said:
"Nobody likes to be tricked or deceived but the church doesn't do that to anyone."
I thought he meant I liked to be deceived by the church. So I wrote that.