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My debate in Christian Forums in full swing
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RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing
(September 10, 2012 at 12:47 am)Rayaan Wrote:
(September 10, 2012 at 12:19 am)greneknight Wrote: You misunderstand me, Rayaan. Jesus was a human being. So he can't be a pure metaphor. Let's say I speak of George Washington as the paragon of honesty. When I say this boy is a George Washington, I'm using that President's name as a metaphor. But George Washington is not a pure metaphor because there was a chap by that name.
Maybe I did misunderstand you, but it doesn't seem like it.

I'll put it in simple and clear words once again. Correct me if I said anything wrong.

Right now, in your comments above, you said that:
1. Jesus is a human being.
2. From 1, he cannot be a pure metaphor.

In other posts, you asserted that:
1. Jesus is God.
2. God is a pure metaphor.

So, that means that you believe that Jesus is both a human being and God, right?

If you say yes, then that means that God cannot be a pure metaphor because he was also a human being (i.e. Jesus). And human beings cannot be pure metaphor.

Rayaan, I know what the problem is. The word "God" is confusing because it means so much to people of faith like yourself. Let's try it differently. We'll substitute T (metaphor for truth) for God.

1. Jesus is human.
2. A human is not a pure metaphor.

1. Jesus is (in Western culture) referred to as T (the metaphor for truth).
2. T is a pure metaphor.

In my understanding, that which is a pure metaphor can't be a person because pure metaphors don't exist. So T can't be a human. Do you think Truth can be a human? Of course not. Truth doesn't exist as an entity. We agree here, right?

But a human can be T. We can call George Washington TRUTH. "Look, Dad! TRUTH has just entered the shop". Let's say there is a culture where Washington is known as TRUTH, that would be perfectly comprehensible.

Same thing with Christianity. The culture has it that Jesus is God. But God is a pure metaphor and it doesn't exist as an entity.

If you think of God as TRUTH, it will be easily understood.

I hope I'm being clear here.
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My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 9, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by padraic - September 9, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by padraic - September 9, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by IATIA - September 9, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Rayaan - September 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by jonb - September 9, 2012 at 8:16 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Rayaan - September 9, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Rayaan - September 9, 2012 at 9:07 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by ThomM - September 13, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by padraic - September 9, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 9, 2012 at 10:50 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 9, 2012 at 11:15 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Rayaan - September 9, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 10, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Brunitski - September 10, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by IATIA - September 10, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Brunitski - September 10, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by padraic - September 10, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 10, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Brunitski - September 10, 2012 at 2:12 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Rayaan - September 10, 2012 at 12:47 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 10, 2012 at 1:15 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Cyberman - September 10, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Minimalist - September 10, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Brunitski - September 10, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Godschild - September 17, 2012 at 3:00 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 10, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 11, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 11, 2012 at 8:46 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 11, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 11, 2012 at 8:43 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Jackalope - September 11, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 11, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by LastPoet - September 11, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 11, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 11, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Minimalist - September 11, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by IATIA - September 11, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Cyberman - September 11, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Cyberman - September 11, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Cyberman - September 11, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 12, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Lion IRC - September 13, 2012 at 1:08 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 13, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 13, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 13, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by greneknight - September 13, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 14, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Lion IRC - September 13, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Lion IRC - September 13, 2012 at 8:34 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Lion IRC - September 14, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by IATIA - September 13, 2012 at 8:59 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by IATIA - September 14, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Minimalist - September 15, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 15, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 15, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 15, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 15, 2012 at 10:12 pm
RE: My debate in Christian Forums in full swing - by Drich - September 17, 2012 at 8:20 pm

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