RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
September 13, 2012 at 1:26 pm
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2012 at 1:31 pm by Undeceived.)
(September 13, 2012 at 7:58 am)apophenia Wrote: As a Christian, who is not supposed to bear false witness, tell me truthfully, how many of the essays on the page I referenced did you actually read before dismissing them all as being inadequate and posting your rejection of them? I'm betting that the honest answer to the question is zero. But I'll let you tell us (or lie to us, as there's nothing to prevent you here.... is there?).I found the couple I read had little to do with the matter at hand. None provided evolutionary reasons in addition to the four Dawkins gave.
Quote:And if morality isn't in the bible or in our genes, then how do we get this morality from God?Morality is known by an inner sense, conveyed (negatively) by guilt and (positively) by contentment. We can tell the difference between God's morality and evolution's by the mechanisms in place. If morality is linked directly to survival in every phase, it is compatible with evolution. If, however, some completely non-selfish qualities are revealed, we must appeal to a Creator with more than propagation in mind. I don't know if there's a 'morality gene' per se. The human brain remains a mystery to scientists. Everyone has a unique soul not received from parents so it's conceivable morality could also be imparted at conception. The Bible tells us we are not just physical beings but spiritual persons, half of us at home in the body, half yearning for a spiritual relationship with Jesus Christ.
(September 13, 2012 at 8:01 am)genkaus Wrote:You have to do nothing, only accept Jesus dying for your sins. Be of a repentant heart.(September 12, 2012 at 9:52 pm)Undeceived Wrote: But the Bible makes it clear: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works." Ephesians 2:8-9And what did you have to do to get this "gift"?