(October 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm)Darkstar Wrote: [Again I have already addressed these thing is my disection of prayer:Quote:quote='Drich' pid='349267' dateline='1350244807']
what makes you an expert on the Mind of God?
1 John 5:14-15 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.
Luke 11:5-10 Then Jesus said to them, “Suppose you have a friend, and you go to him at midnight and say, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves of bread; 6 a friend of mine on a journey has come to me, and I have no food to offer him.’ 7 And suppose the one inside answers, ‘Don’t bother me. The door is already locked, and my children and I are in bed. I can’t get up and give you anything.’ 8 I tell you, even though he will not get up and give you the bread because of friendship, yet because of your shameless audacity he will surely get up and give you as much as you need.
9 “So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
The first shows that god has to agree with your prayer, the second shows that you may have to ask numerous times before the prayer is answered. The problem arises when, after asking many times, you are unsure if you simply need to ask more, or if god does not intend to answer you at all.
See above. You could never know if the prayer was answered, or if it happened by chance because there is no defined limit on the number of times you must pray. Pray to win the lottery (so you can donate it to charity) for 70 years, and then win. Answered prayer?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-14138.html
Quote:I guess if you are just now in collage then you were to young to remember how 9-11-01 made most Americans feel. All we needed was to attach somemorality clause and we leveled two nations because 'we felt like killing people.'
It is true that hot weather tends to make people more irritable, but this is not part of human nature. People don't go to war jsut because they want to kill somebody.
Quote:Firstly, I'm not one of those people who needs the iphone# or the new car, or even cares, frankly. Either way, I don't see how a consumerist society=violent urges.It's funny how you narrowed the whole arguement down to the want for an iphone, is this all you really took from what was sa?id or is the iphone the only thing you could relate to?
It's simple the 'stuff' the consumers consume is a form of pacification. a way to control and profit from the urge to one up the jones'. A constructive way to placate the pride and jelousy that has leveled (if left un checked) every great civilzation of man. Because without this pacifier man eventually will devolve in his idle time allowing jelousy and a sense of entitlement consume him.
Quote:People did, and god said it was okay. But how does this answer whether christians are god's slaves?This is what happens when you concern yourself with someone else answer. you spout of something half cocked and derail the whole conversation. The question had nothing to do with what you just ask. Apo asked did soceity or God control free will. I was trying to get her to see that both have a hand in it God's being the final word. The point being that Man always had and always will control the will and freedom of other men.
(Till His kingdom comes.)
