When you prayed did it ever work?

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From post #61 on this thread:

Prayer is talking with God. It's the live relationship where you discover his will. You know his will as you test it against your knowledge of him. If it is inconsistent with accepted (by you) knowledge then it's not him.

My bolding. That's what confused me. The idea that you know his will as you test it against him.

I object to you removing the words "knowledge of". That completely changes it.

No I didn't mean prayer. I meant you can test what you think might be his will against accepted wisdom on what constitutes his will. That's pretty much how xtianity works. Warm fuzzy feeling is meaningless without backup. It's the way the rabbinical tradition has functioned for many centuries.

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Are you saying that you justify it pragmatically? It's useful for you to believe in God? You follow a book that assumes God, not a book that gives evidence for God?

Or if you're saying it's not proof, but it is evidence, just a different kind of evidence, then how is assuming God evidence?

I don't know where you're at with this.

Assuming God isn't a certain kind of evidence. But you don't mind that. Assuming God we can conclude an answer: given God. That all answers succeed, compels students to trust.