RE: Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.
November 11, 2012 at 9:21 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2012 at 9:21 pm by Drich.)
(November 11, 2012 at 2:28 pm)apophenia Wrote: (By the way, asking for a complete citation when someone is presenting evidence is generally considered a perfectly legitimate request.)I deemed it unreasonable when two complete citations were presented and STILL Have not been addressed in favor of this red herring expedition. Address the two 'citation' where Cinny has left Nazi style propaganda and I will consider the previous request.
Quote:It appears that you have quoted the following from Merriam-Webster online dictionary, and the supplementary information accompanying the definition of the word propaganda. (ETA: This appears to derive from the Britannica Concise, which I can't locate at the moment.)
propaganda
Noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Manipulation of information to influence public opinion. The term comes from Congregatio de Propaganda Fide (Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith), a missionary organization established by the pope in 1622. Propagandists emphasize the elements of information that support their position and deemphasize or exclude those that do not. Misleading statements and even lies may be used to create the desired effect in the public audience.
Quote:And immediately below that the claim that you haven't, "changed or manipulated anything."Strawman.
This is you changing and manipulating. You sir are the worst kind of a hypocrite.
Quote:However, if we but quote the rest of the passage you are citing, then it's clear that you are manipulating all of us here by misleadingly failing to quote an importantly relevant portion of your own chosen authority. The "Concise Encyclopedia" goes on to state that, "Lobbying, advertising, and missionary activity are all forms of propaganda..." (emphasis mine) It would appear that by both definitions (misleading, manipulating — your words, and that of your source), you are engaged in propaganda. Moreover, you're being far more dishonest, I think, in your efforts, than Cinjin ever has been. Moreover, something else has been pointed out to me yesterday. It has been stated that one is entitled to one's opinions, but not one's facts. But this is a distortion, because there exists a sea of facts among which we all pick and choose those we consider relevant and important to our opinions, you no less than anyone else. So we are entitled to choose our opinions in a biased manner, but we likewise cannot help but bias our selection of facts as well. You are no less guilty of this in choosing to present those aspects of your dream experience which you find compelling, and neglecting to also present the research showing how dream prophecy, prophecy of religious nature, and prophecy in general are wholly and categorically unreliable. You chose to manipulate and mislead us by selecting certain facts to highlight, and other facts to ignore. If you maintain that you have not done this, in spite of your claims otherwise, you are either lying, deluded, or too stupid to breathe..)A Christian missionary can be defined as "one who is to witness across cultures."[2] The Lausanne Congress of 1974, defined the term, related to Christian mission as, "to form a viable indigenous church-planting movement." Missionaries can be found in many countries around the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary
Hate to break it to you champ, but cinny is a native, and if you are partial to the 1974 definition, know in your heart of hearts I am not here to 'plant a church.' "Your serve hits the net again, and bounces back into your court."
You know if you keep trying Maybe I will feel sorry for you and let one get by me, OR maybe you'll get lucky and do it on your own accord.
Quote:(By the way, I do not particularly care for use of derogatory smileys in a polite conversation when used simply as an excessive display of contempt for the person you are speaking with. I consider it both arrogant and uncivilSo? Isn't telling someone they are unfit to breath for any reason abit arrogant and uncivil? See Alpo, Hypocrites do not get to make 'observations' like the one you made, and still have them count for anything.