Evidence?

[fr0d0]

Yet again you dodge the question.

I want you to answer the non religious question to see if the secular answer would correlate to the religious answer.

I did? Please see below:

The entire time I would, in that scenario, have handled the heroin in my own doing, obviously because god to me does not exist (Before you start attacking this I shall state that he cannot be proven nor disproven). Nobody controls me, nobody condemns me, I do the crime I do the time.

Oh and one more thing, when I said "nobody condemns me' I am sure you'll say that I am condemning myself and I do agree in this case that by taking the heroin I would in fact be condemning myself. Just to clarify on that, when I said "nobody condemns me", I actually mean before I even begin to do any wrongdoing. Hope that prevents any misunderstanding.

OK thankyou. So you are saying that if you took the heroin you would indeed be doing something with your own free will was harmful to you therefore proving that God also does not limit free will by giving you a choice to do something either healthy or unhealthy.

"I don't believe in him because you realize now how very foolish it sounds"? Seriously.. are you taking something?

I do not know how you actually read and I sincerely do not appreciate your personal attacks, but what I said was:

Now I'm agreeing with you but you don't accept because you realize now how very foolish it sounds.

If you wish to quote, please at least do so properly, I'd really appreciate it.

I was paraphrasing. I credit you with enough intelligence to realize this. I quoted your exact words in the same post so you could hardly accuse me of misquoting!

You said: "Now I am agreeing with you" or in other words: "I agree with you" or "You say this". You are saying that I mean: "You (me, fr0d0) realize how foolish your belief sounds" - when the evidence of what we have discovered says quite the opposite: that my belief (God) is consistent and logical and that your assertion here is entirely illogical.

I am not attacking you. Just trying to get an answer from you about your assertions. Something you seem very reticent to do for some reason.

1. You say that I say there is no free will - what???

I still think the issue of freewill is questionable.

But you can't or won't articulate why.

I understand your frustration and I apologize if I misunderstood and misinterpreted some of your points. I do not wish to be stubborn in acknowledging when I am wrong and I certainly appreciate your time in explaining these points in finer detail for my benefit. I understand that I was indeed wrong in certain points and again, I sincerely apologize.

That's very gracious of you.

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4. Limbless babies are in God's plan - yes

How do you know?

Assuming God is all knowing, he knows everything that will happen.