RE: Evidence?
October 5, 2009 at 9:10 am
(This post was last modified: October 5, 2009 at 9:22 am by fr0d0.)
I'll have a go...
"God is" "I am" = God = non temporal
God as potentiality: the/ first principle/ prime mover, is logically infinite and perfect. From that it follows that he is also all knowing.
As non temporal he exists outside of time and sees time all at once. Therefore he knows everything at any point in time in our temporal zone.
Right and I have shown, I hope, how the choice 'God' equals the choice 'health'.
I apologise if that's what I did/ came over as doing.
If you have a view different from mine I'd like to know how you defend/ justify that point to see if I'm right in holding my position. Failing to justify your position leaves us both no better off.
"God is" "I am" = God = non temporal
God as potentiality: the/ first principle/ prime mover, is logically infinite and perfect. From that it follows that he is also all knowing.
As non temporal he exists outside of time and sees time all at once. Therefore he knows everything at any point in time in our temporal zone.
(October 5, 2009 at 8:56 am)Retorth Wrote:(October 5, 2009 at 7:27 am)fr0d0 Wrote: OK thankyou. So you are saying that if you took the heroin you would indeed be doing something with your own free will was harmful to you therefore proving that God also does not limit free will by giving you a choice to do something either healthy or unhealthy.
Yes I quite agree, however I must clarify, I am not referring to him limiting our free will by not allowing us to make unhealthy choices. I am referring to him condemning us for not believing in him.
Right and I have shown, I hope, how the choice 'God' equals the choice 'health'.
(October 5, 2009 at 8:56 am)Retorth Wrote:fr0d0 Wrote:I am not attacking you. Just trying to get an answer from you about your assertions. Something you seem very reticent to do for some reason.
Questioning my ability by asking me if I took "something" is considered an attack in my opinion. However, if you think it is not, fair enough. I understand where you are coming from.
I apologise if that's what I did/ came over as doing.
(October 5, 2009 at 8:56 am)Retorth Wrote: I understand your view, I am not challenging you. Not everything is a challenge. I am here to learn and understand. As I said, if I am wrong to you, I am wrong.
If you have a view different from mine I'd like to know how you defend/ justify that point to see if I'm right in holding my position. Failing to justify your position leaves us both no better off.