RE: For People Who Think There Was No Historical Jesus
March 2, 2013 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2013 at 1:44 pm by EGross.)
(March 1, 2013 at 10:07 am)Confused Ape Wrote:(March 1, 2013 at 9:27 am)EGross Wrote: I think they stole that from the Midrash of Abraham
Would people in 7th Century England have known about interpretation of texts in Judaism, though?[/uote]
Ah, 7th century. Maybe the Jews took it from them?There is also a Chinese story of a guy who was invulnerable to gire, his brother to water, and his other brother to the axe. I guess lots of culturs like these stories.
(March 1, 2013 at 10:07 am)Confused Ape Wrote: [quote="egross"]circumsized Jewish male who married gentile women who had children with her tries to pass by Abraham he grabs the guy, puts a foreskin on from the ones he collected, and tosses the guy into the fire! (A not-so-subtle anti-intermarriage story).
When did that story first appear? Was it at a time when there was a lot of intermarriage going on?
The story is in a collection that was published around the same time as the Council of Nicea, perhaps a bit earlier. And it is possible that there could have been later edits to Berashit Rabbah as well.
I left out that Abraham was to do this at the "end of days", since, at that time, there was no heaven/hell that Kabbilistic Judaism would be introducing several centuries later.
As far as intermarriage, the Book of Ezra shows it was a big problem whenever Jews were in exile or lived among non-Jews. Most likely this was a warning.
(March 2, 2013 at 1:33 pm)Confused Ape Wrote:(March 2, 2013 at 12:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: BTW, that movie was puke-inducing.
John Wayne's wooden declaration that Jesus really was the son of God made up for it.
I think the movie is most memorable for the approach of - "Let's have as many big name Hollywood stars in it as possible and try to outdo The Longest Day." TGSET wins out over TLD for Star Trek fans because it had Spock's father in it.
I read a while back that the director, not at all impressed with John Wayne saying "Now.. I... know... that... he... was... truely... the... son... of... God!" said, "John, can we gat some awe into that line?" Whereupon John wany repeated the line in the next take:
"Awwww... Now.. I... know... that... he... was... truely... the... son... of... God!"
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
