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Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’
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RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’



The notion that NDEs mean anything requires a lot of metaphysical scaffolding which just isn't there. So you end up with a curious circular logic in which the metaphysical postulates support the interpretation of the NDE itself, which in turn validates the metaphysical postulates upon which the interpretation originally rested. I'm not going to open up another thread on consciousness, but in order for any of this to make sense, you have to believe in certain things about the nature of consciousness which are unproven, and for which there is a strong circumstantial case against them being true.

One property that I've suggested as being a part of the defining characteristics of life is "sustainability," being that life forms are able to perpetuate the persistence of their form (by perpetuating a form which perpetuates itself). Even if I were to accept the rather hopeful notion that our energy is the necessary totality of consciousness, without a form to perpetuate itself, it simply dissipates. To suggest that life, meaning consciousness, is able to sustain itself outside the body is an extraordinary proposition which requires a lot more than "I saw a white light."


@Norfolk and Chance:

He was careful to limit it to anything that is possible. I still think the claim is unjustified, but it's a much weaker claim than that "anything will happen."



Oh, and I just noticed this at the bottom of the article:

"Robert Lanza, MD is considered one of the leading scientists in the world."


Way to ruin a perfectly good bullshit meter.


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Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 12, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 13, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 13, 2013 at 8:00 am
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 13, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Phish - March 13, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’ - by Angrboda - March 13, 2013 at 2:30 pm

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