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Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism
RE: Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism
(March 17, 2013 at 5:08 pm)Mr Infidel Wrote:
(March 17, 2013 at 5:07 pm)jstrodel Wrote: You can prove it.

Obviously, it cannot be proven. Otherwise, there would be no doubt to the claim.

You can make up a system of proof to make it impossible to prove anything. That is what a typical atheist does, make up a standard that is designed to exclude Christian belief and make whatever things he is involved in the only criteria for defining truth, all as part of a broad culture war or technocratic aim.
It depends on how you define proof. Alvin Plantinga has argued that people can have Warranted Christian Belief in his book by the same time through properly basic beliefs by the Holy Spirit. It builds on several other books on epistemology that he wrote.

I agree with him. Christians can have an extremely high confidence that their beliefs are true. Whether they can prove this to others, is debatable. Many have found the arguments for the existence of God convincing. Personally, I find taking God seriously on God's own terms much more convincing.

http://www.amazon.com/Warranted-Christia...ian+belief

(March 17, 2013 at 5:15 pm)LastPoet Wrote: When you keep pilling up bullshit, showing remarkable ignorance in cognitive development, it amounts to nothing. A third grader is incapable to understand calculus, even grownups have trouble with it. But it fucking works. Your god, your so vaunted theology don't even helped an infinitesimal to mankind compared to a simple discipline, a subset of Math that is calculus.

How can you be so sure that your failure to find God is not the same sort of failure that prevents grownups from understanding calculus? What if it is your failure, rather than theism's failure.

Why does your failure to appreciate the nuance of my argument reflect poorly on me? If you couldn't understand my argument, maybe you should go a little slower reading theology. Maybe you could learn more.
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RE: Toaster strudel alliance takes on drugs, atheists and liberalism - by jstrodel - March 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 6, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Rhizomorph13 - March 6, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 6, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 6, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 13, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 7, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 1:06 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 7, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 7, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Ecstasy - by paulpablo - March 13, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 3:08 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Creed of Heresy - March 7, 2013 at 3:23 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 7, 2013 at 4:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 7, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Ecstasy - by festive1 - March 13, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 7, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 7, 2013 at 9:26 am
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 8, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by paulpablo - March 9, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by rexbeccarox - March 9, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 9, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 9, 2013 at 3:27 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 9, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by John V - March 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 9, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 9, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 9, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by rexbeccarox - March 9, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 9, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 9, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 9, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 10, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 10, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 10, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 10, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 10, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 10, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Esquilax - March 11, 2013 at 4:50 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Faith No More - March 11, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 11, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Autumnlicious - March 11, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Cinjin - March 15, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Darkstar - March 11, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 11, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 13, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 13, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 7:28 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Something completely different - March 12, 2013 at 7:30 am
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Faith No More - March 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Angrboda - March 12, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by LastPoet - March 12, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by festive1 - March 12, 2013 at 2:07 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by jstrodel - March 12, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Jackalope - March 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by CleanShavenJesus - March 12, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Napoléon - March 12, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 12, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by catfish - March 12, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: Ecstasy - by Shell B - March 12, 2013 at 9:02 pm

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