RE: My reasoning in rejecting eternal torture/hell...
March 27, 2013 at 1:21 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2013 at 2:10 am by Godscreated.)
(March 27, 2013 at 12:32 am)Godschild Wrote: Everlasting, forever, unending...ect is there another definition.
ANM Wrote:When there is no time those words have no meaning. Care to try again?
What are you talking about? It would be nice if you made sense.
GC Wrote:Because the sin is against God and He is eternal, only God can remove sin. If a sin is not removed it is eternal.
ANM Wrote:So why did this god of yours create sin in the first place? All that exists is through your god so you claim. It created sin. And on the six day, why did it declare sin was good?
God did not create sin, sin came into God's creation through the actions of Lucifer. I've never claimed sin was created by God, you have no idea what I claim, so stop putting words in my mouth.
(March 27, 2013 at 1:00 am)Godschild Wrote: ...
Adam and Eve knew the difference between right and wrong,
ANM Wrote:But only AFTER the neutral act of discovering that character claiming to be a god was a lying piece of crap when they did not die.
Eve told the serpent the consequences of choosing wrong, Adam told Eve the consequences of choosing wrong. Before you try to argue scripture it would help if you would at least read the Bible.
GC Wrote:why, they understood there was a consequence for their action to do different than God had instructed. They did not know what good and evil were, just as a child knows right from wrong long before they understand good and evil.
ANM Wrote:Please explain how right from wrong is different from good and evil. Tell me how you can deny evil is right and good is wrong when one does not know the difference. How big a laugh should I be prepared to get from your response?
Evil /adj. Wicked, causing or threatening harm or distress.
Evil /noun The fact of suffering, misfortune and wrongdoing.
Good : of a favorable character or tendency, commendable, virtuous.
Adam and Eve did not know these things, what they knew was there was a consequence for choosing wrongly.
Right/adj. proper, correct
Wrong/adj. not right according to a standard. noun: unjust act
These are the thins Adam and Eve understood.
Laugh all you want, it will be at yourself.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
