(March 27, 2013 at 11:54 am)smax Wrote: Please share with everyone the undeniable proof god provided you?Remember the phrasing of your question before you try and most the goal posts when you respond to these links:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-15622.html
http://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html
http://atheistforums.org/thread-15737.html
Quote:Nothing you posted here refutes the point I am making about morality, which is simply that human beings should base their morality on the survival, success, betterment, and mutual benefit of their fellow human beings and the human race in general.It wasn't meant to. The extent of my post was to point out that man's 'morality' is not the standard you believe it to be. That's it, that's all.
Quote:Your blind willingness to accept a standard of morality that is based on an imaginary deity is actually counter-productivity to your very real and verifiable existence as a human being.By design. As it makes us dependent on God. If we are completely dependent on God we will be receipents of the 'proof' that has alluded you, everyday.
drich Wrote:Which is the very reason we have been put here on this earth. To make that desision. Is Heaven worthy more over is the idea of staying with God in Heaven for eternity what we want to do?
Quote:In no way was my 3rd point any concession about the existence of such a place. I was merely pointing out that what is being described in the Bible as heaven, is not something that would appeal to any person interested in things like liberty, diversity, and meaningful interaction.Read the quote of mine you high lighted again. I agree, not everyone here (whatever the reason) will want to goto Heaven or be a slave to the living God for an eternity.
Quote:If being a mindless drone, who's only purpose is to constantly and infinitely kiss some serious ass, appeals to you, more power to you. Or, maybe I should say less power to you.I believe the same way you do. If you want to be 'liberated' from God for eternity, then may you be able to do so in the 'hand basket' of your choosing.
Quote:That's not what it means at all, not even close. That verse was specifically addressing prophecy, which you would know if you had read the verse that preceeded it:
1 Thes 5:20
Do not treat prophecies with contempt
That verse is not asking you to question your faith. But, as a fellow human being, I am.
Ah, no. Nice try at an contextual exegesis though. Here's a tip when trying to build a contextual exegesis one must take a broader swath of scripture than just a glimps of one verse before the verse in question for example The NKJV identifies and groups the following verses together:
Various Exhortations
12 And we urge you, brethren, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, 13 and to esteem them very highly in love for their work’s sake. Be at peace among yourselves.
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all.
16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies. 21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil.
Even the NKJV classifies this bank of scriptures as "Various exhortations or sayings/tips" Meaning each is a stand alone verse.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...rsion=NKJV
As you can see there is not one aspect of what i believe that has not been tested by me, and again by people like you everyday for the last 6 years. what you have asked and are learning to do now for yourself is an old hat that I wear comfortably.
