RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
May 18, 2013 at 1:24 pm
(This post was last modified: May 18, 2013 at 1:50 pm by cneron.)
1. Gay marriage opens the door to a plethora of new definitions of how "marriage" is defined, a door which the majority of people,especially in the UK, would like to see shut.
The flaw in this argument is that the other "undesirable" unions you mentioned already bear with them some onus or restriction, primarily that the individuals named are related in some prior legal or biological manner. OK, make it so gays can't marry their grandfathers or brothers or whatever. That has no bearing on unrelated gays marrying.
This is a typical, nonsensical method of argument. Blacks shouldn't be given equal rights because they'll lord it over the white man and rape his women. Women shouldn't be given the vote because they'll stop staying home having kids and the race will die out. It's bugaboo. It doesn't follow.
2: Gay marriage legislation will lead to religious oppression and a rejection of religious freedom.
It will? How? How does freedom for others infringe on anyone else's freedom---except the freedom to discriminate? This sounds like the same dumb argument we have in America, that gay marriage will erode straight marriage---and I've yet to hear any actual explanation of that one, either.
I don't know how it works in the UK, but in the US we have secular, equally legal weddings, which can be performed by a justice of the peace, magistrate, judge, notary public, or any court-deputized individual (depending on where you are). The churches are still entitled to determine what marriages they will perform and recognize, and which they won't. If your churches don't retain that right then perhaps you have a point, and good luck with that.
Incidentally, anti-polygamy laws are stupid too.
The flaw in this argument is that the other "undesirable" unions you mentioned already bear with them some onus or restriction, primarily that the individuals named are related in some prior legal or biological manner. OK, make it so gays can't marry their grandfathers or brothers or whatever. That has no bearing on unrelated gays marrying.
This is a typical, nonsensical method of argument. Blacks shouldn't be given equal rights because they'll lord it over the white man and rape his women. Women shouldn't be given the vote because they'll stop staying home having kids and the race will die out. It's bugaboo. It doesn't follow.
2: Gay marriage legislation will lead to religious oppression and a rejection of religious freedom.
It will? How? How does freedom for others infringe on anyone else's freedom---except the freedom to discriminate? This sounds like the same dumb argument we have in America, that gay marriage will erode straight marriage---and I've yet to hear any actual explanation of that one, either.
I don't know how it works in the UK, but in the US we have secular, equally legal weddings, which can be performed by a justice of the peace, magistrate, judge, notary public, or any court-deputized individual (depending on where you are). The churches are still entitled to determine what marriages they will perform and recognize, and which they won't. If your churches don't retain that right then perhaps you have a point, and good luck with that.
Incidentally, anti-polygamy laws are stupid too.
- C. Neron
