(May 20, 2013 at 3:18 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Omnipresent...can't exist within space and time?...hmm...not contradictory at all.
...oh and by the way bud, I could say anything is in the jar, and depending on what properties I feel like imposing on the object I say is in there, its equally indiscernible from reality or existance. Your God claims are merely an example of the types of claims I could make about the contents of the jar. Nothing you assign to your claims of God correlate with reality or experience. Simply insisting that its true because I can't disprove it, is an argument from ignorance, which is the basis of your claims. So if you're searching for an applicable fallacy, One need not look any further than the contents of your posts.
Indeed - one can point to the fact that there is NO scientific study using enough people to be statistically significant - that even suggests that prayer has ANY effect beyond that of chance. Worse - that is the case NO MATTER what you pray to as well.
Xtians like to counter that statement with "but it has to be "god's" will. BUT if YOU really look at that statement - it is actually admitting that prayer does NOTHING - god will do what he wants whether you pray or not.
So - of what use is a religion - if it has NO power to intercede between you and god - and has NO ability to even suggest what a god will do?
Science has already proven that Evolution DID happen - and it is well supported that all life on earth developed from a single source , And proven through DNA research that ALL life on earth shared DNA - AND it is proven that there was NEVER a time on earth when ALL life existed at the same time - and that our universe was the result of a single event (Called the big bang - we are left with little need for a "creator" to have existed.
And that is the problem for religion - because their claims have always started with creation. BUT they never have supported the need for a "god" of their definition - only a creator with that ONE power - the power to have initiated the evolution of the Universe.
Today - 1600 children too young to even be responsible for their own actions will be sexually molested by a family member on earth - and every day forward. IF a god is all knowing - and all seeing - and Almighty - it knows - sees - and supposedly has the power to prevent that.
If all it does is look it is a pervert
And that is the BEST scenario for a "god" in this instance.
